Jeet Kung Do - Style of no style

[RichardZ]

Technically jkd is a style but once you have the techniques and the 'root' you can use the formless form.

Nice post.

[bushido_man96]

I took up TKD when I was a Jr. Black Belt in Shindokan while I was in high school. One of the main reasons why I took TKD was because TKD practitioners were beating me constantly with their many deceptive kicks. There's no better way to learn how to defend against these deceptive kicks then to learn them and understand them and recognize them at their conception. That's what I did, but, only with the approval of my sensei. What I took away from that one year with GM Young Ik Suh was a solid TKD base, but, I also figured that the best way for ME to stop a TKD practioner is to jam them at the conception of their kick(s).

I've crossed trained my entire life. Shindokan is a great fit for me, but, I also want to know about other styles of the martial arts and in that, I'm like Hem the mouse, learn to adapt and move with the change or die. Shindokan isn't the only way, it's just another way and I want to know more ways.

I'm extremely loyal to by Dai-Soke; I've been with my Dai-Soke for 45 years...is this blind loyalty? NO!

Indeed. Sorta like can't beat 'em, join 'em. However, a instructor with grand knowledge of hand tactics, and combat understanding, would have instructed one how to beat these kickers without having one go to them. For example, if someone comes at one with a bo, one would close the gap, evade, etc., to limit the extension. This is very simular to those kicking at one.

Also, one cannot beat soneone, say who kicks, because one maybe following their rules of sparring, their environment. From my experiences and observations, not too may kicks, esp fanciful ones, are used in actual confrontations.

It is a grand idea to train in multiple arts, though. Provided that there are qualified instructors. The obsticle in training this way, is that one has to "empty their cup" each time they start another art.

It would be nice if it worked that way all the time, but it simply doesn't. So, going to find out more about how a kicker kicks, or a Boxer boxes, is a good way to shore up some weaknesses. When it comes to competition especially, learning what different specializations tend to lean towards can be a big help.

Out of curiosity, Bob, did learning TKD help you to counter those kicks?

[RichardZ]

I would tend to think, if there is one whom kicks, is getting the best of one who doesn't, then the area of expertise to study, is not kicking, but better hand-blocking-jamming.

As I had said, in sparrng, there maybe a certain environeent or set - type of rules. I for one, will not "spar another's game".

There was a interesting bout with Muhammad Ali and Antonio Inoki

[sensei8]

Out of curiosity, Bob, did learning TKD help you to counter those kicks?

Yepper! With a TKD practitioner or any practitioner that loves to kick all the time; I jam the kick at its conception!

[bushido_man96]

I would tend to think, if there is one whom kicks, is getting the best of one who doesn't, then the area of expertise to study, is not kicking, but better hand-blocking-jamming.

As I had said, in sparrng, there maybe a certain environeent or set - type of rules. I for one, will not "spar another's game".

There was a interesting bout with Muhammad Ali and Antonio Inoki

I can't tell from your post if you are for or against competition sparring or not. But, I will say that when you are being troubled by a certain aspect in competition, then learning how a specialist performs his trade is a very good way of helping to shore up a weakness.

[RichardZ]

I would tend to think, if there is one whom kicks, is getting the best of one who doesn't, then the area of expertise to study, is not kicking, but better hand-blocking-jamming.

As I had said, in sparrng, there maybe a certain environeent or set - type of rules. I for one, will not "spar another's game".

There was a interesting bout with Muhammad Ali and Antonio Inoki

I can't tell from your post if you are for or against competition sparring or not. But, I will say that when you are being troubled by a certain aspect in competition, then learning how a specialist performs his trade is a very good way of helping to shore up a weakness.

I am not against any type of sparring.

What I am saying that if one is to spar another, they should not spar to the "their game" without thorough study and acquired skill.

[bushido_man96]

By cross-training, I think one can aquire that skill, to a certain degree. It may not be expert skill, but it can be enough to accomplish a goal.

[RichardZ]

By cross-training, I think one can aquire that skill, to a certain degree. It may not be expert skill, but it can be enough to accomplish a goal.

Is enough to accomplish a goal, be enough skill? How can it be determined if such skill was the goal, or a mirage?

[DarkEye]

JKD is a mixture of all kind of marital arts. Bruce lee didnt create a new art he just combined the good of all martial arts he thought which will help to develop.

[Jay]

JKD is a mixture of all kind of marital arts. Bruce lee didnt create a new art he just combined the good of all martial arts he thought which will help to develop.

Interesting that someone has said this because this is what the majority of people who come into contact with JKD think. Bruce did take things from other arts but integrated them into a preexisting framework that had principles. He didn't just randomly jam techniques together he took what he thought would fit with the rest of the things in his system. Originally the Wing Chun and then through Jun Fan into Jeet Kune Do. JKD is mainly made up of 3 arts. Wing Chun, Boxing and Fencing and he did not just take odd techniques he took ones which fit him best. There is also a little bit of Jiu Jitsu,Judo and Wrestling in the ground game which to be honest there is not much off.

The techniques or more accurately principles he took he researched their effectiveness and then put them in based upon scientific principles.

This is what interests me no other 'style' was designed upon scientific principles. They work because of them but were not manufactured in this way. Which all in all I think is very very cool.