RedLynx Posted July 13, 2002 Posted July 13, 2002 I know many Okinawan and other M/A weapons today were once merely tools. What I'm not sure of is exactly what they were once used for. For example I know the nunchaku were used for crushing/harvesting grain, but if you asked me what the sai was used for, I'd have no clue. Can any of you tell me what different weapons were once used for? -Lynx"A fool can put on wisdom, but his foolisness will show." -Kurt DoplerNunchaku Sticks (chain variety)
Tobias_Reece Posted July 13, 2002 Posted July 13, 2002 RedLynx You are correct in thinking that many Okinawan weapons were farm tools, but there is no 'correct' answer, just theories. We can start this by looking at the nunchaku - yes, they might have been grain beaters, but if you actually look at the original grain beaters they were actually larger, and some had certain specifications etc. It is far more likely that another theory is 'correct'. Other theories include horse bites, but my personal favourite - the law enforcement tool. This theory was that if the 'copper' spotted a thief, they would clap the nunchaku together, alerting everyone. In reference to the zai, I'm going to provide a link to my instructor/examiner's website. This has some very good theories for the sai (FAQs, "The Sai Theories") http://www.martialarts2000.freeserve.co.uk/Text%20Files/The%20Sai%20theories.doc If that link doesn't work, go to : http://www.martialarts2000.freeserve.co.uk Hope this helps "You Are Never Given A Dream Without Also Being Given The Power To Make It True. You May Have To Work For It, However"Principal Kobudo Instructor & OwnerWest Yorkshire Kobudo Academy2nd Kyu (Matayoshi Okinawan Kobudo, IOKA UK)
Eye of the Tiger Posted July 14, 2002 Posted July 14, 2002 I know that when Shaoloin Kung Fu was being made that they trained to fight with every day weapons such as broomsticks, and buckets. But I think they have adopted more advanced weapons now such as swords and sticks.
Taikudo-ka Posted July 16, 2002 Posted July 16, 2002 Some kobudo weapons I've heard of: Staff (bo/jo) - walking stick/staff (or pole from rake, shovel, broom, etc) Oar - a simple boat oar, for rowing Nunchuck - part of horse bridle. I believe early nunchucks imitated the curved bridle shape. Tonfa - may have been a mill handle. However, similar weapons are found throughout Asia and it may always have had a martial application. Sai - I've heard that this was always a weapon, like a sword. May have evolved from a pitchfork but the modern application seems purely martial. Kama - A sickle, used for cutting straw and grass. KarateForums.com - Sempai
Taikudo-ka Posted July 16, 2002 Posted July 16, 2002 In fact, every weapon has evolved out of some tool. If it wasn't a farm implement, it was a hunting tool, or a craft tool. the axe - for cutting wood the spear and bow - for hunting game the knife - for cutting up food, cutting material, furs, etc. the hammer - cracking nuts, driving wood piles, 1001 other uses. The sword is just a big knife (in principle, not practise), and the cruise missile is just a big firecracker. Everything can probably be traced back to the stick, the stone, or the bone. KarateForums.com - Sempai
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