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But if you jump into some pushing contest that escalates then you're outside the "reasonable person" archtype.

We've discussed the bar thing before. I don't think that being in one automatically means you're acting outside those bounds established by the term "reasonable person". But, act like an idiot and bad things are bound to happen.

That being said, you do accept a certain amount of risk anytime you go anywhere that booze is being served in large quantities to people who don't mind indulging. Doesn't mean you're at fault AUTOMATICALLY if something happens. It just means that certain places will have an increase risk that one needs to be aware of.

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I use 'bar' specifically because I have heard a lot of "self defence" questions that are, essentially, asking how to use the martial arts to win a bar fight that, even according to the whitewashed fictitious scenario given, wasn't being avoided very hard.

"Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia

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