TW0EDGE Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Hey now Don't put words in my mouth ....err post I never said sparring I said Dae Ryun or Kumite. While sparring is a small part of Dae Ryun and Kumite it is not true interpretation of either term. TW0EDGE 0===(=========> Frank RossE-Dan World Tang Soo Do Assn.0===(==========>
KickChick Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Sorry didn't mean to put "words" in your post. I am not familiar with that specific Korean term as we don't use that in our schooling of TKD. I thought Dae Ryun to mean sparring (one step,3-step and free sparring)... So I understand you are not a TKDoist so I can't understand how "this" applies to TKD?
taezee Posted July 31, 2002 Posted July 31, 2002 i dont know what hes trying to say either deby..the correct korean term is koryugi......sparring..kumite..whatever the term your school.. dojang..temple.dojo. etc...calls it.. theres an internatinal term thats understood no matter what style you practice..no matter if you are a martial artist or not.."fighting" can one fight? hold thier own? throw down? scrap..kick ass.. sparring and fighting are two different things alltogether...sparring is but another training tool to becoming a fighter..sparring has rules.. a format..tradition..do you know that 90% of the time if you get into a fight it will not be with a martial artist!! fighting does not..have any of these rules..guidelines traditions!! honor..respect..and being an exceptional sparring competitor or even a champion..does not mean you can fight!! and not everyone can be a fighter ..its an instinct..a talent that you can either have naturally or develop through martial arts practice..ive seen black belts who cant fight but have excellent technique and ive seen white belts with no technique but can fight well...sparring and fighting are closely related but by far not the same thing.. and sooooooooooooooo once again the debate as to which style vs another is a futile excercise..in opinion and ego..a martial arts pissing contest if you will...individual vs individual is another story ..talk and action are they the same?? i think not..who is more trainied in fighting the individual who is in an enviroment where fighting is an everyday thing..as in living in a bad neighborhood where he is forced to fight and survive daily or the "martial artist" who shows up two three times a week and practices "what it may be like" and thinks "nobody better mess with me" once again and im sick of being redundant the only person who can fight is the person who fights..just as the only person who can swim comfortably is the one who jumps in the deep end and swims.. _________________ Javier l Rosario bayshore new york instructor taekwondo/hapkido under master Atef s Himaya grandmaster Moon sung lee "whenever youre lazy enough not to train .someone, somewhere is training very hard to ki [ This Message was edited by: taezee on 2002-07-30 22:47 ] [ This Message was edited by: taezee on 2002-07-31 00:13 ] [ This Message was edited by: taezee on 2002-07-31 00:16 ] Javier l Rosario instructor taekwondo/hapkidounder master Atef s Himaya"whenever youre lazy enough not to train .someone, somewhere is training very hard to kick your *"
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