BlueDragon1981 Posted July 20, 2002 Author Share Posted July 20, 2002 Calm down....talking about overall not just the sept 11 thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckdstudent Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 Yes, I'm talking about overall as well. Check your history. In almost every circumstance that America's needed allies in recent history we've been the first on the scene. Despite the fact that your government has done stuff that we, along with the rest of the world, have protested to and we have been completely ignored in our protests we are still your allies. Frankly I really don't know why. ---------Pil SungJimmy B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDragon1981 Posted July 20, 2002 Author Share Posted July 20, 2002 Wow....Didnt mean to get you in an uproar...sorry man....you have been better than 99% of the countries. Matter of fact I think that USA, Britian, and Australia are the only true humanitarians. (now im going to p@# others off.) Most countries dis the US and then act like they are their friends. Does anyone think that a sole called Holy War makes sense? I dont. No religions says to kill people. (unless it is satanism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizMarkie Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 ...the only humanitarians!! When was the last time a swiss fighter dropped bombs on a wedding? How about the Kyoto treaty? And ICC?? And Bush is a friend of the criminal Sharon!! America has some good things going...but to say that these three (I can probably agree on Canada) are the only humanitarians is ludacris. It didn't pay it's debt to the UN until it needed friends...and now USA is losing its friends due to unilateralist policies and arrogance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDragon1981 Posted August 6, 2002 Author Share Posted August 6, 2002 Yes the US has arrogance. That comes with the freedom Im afraid. I personally dont think there should be war. Humans just cant ever agree on anything I guess. Greed and Power are what is important in most countries. I don't like many of the politcians ideas on things but really I cant do much about them. Most the things you mentioned would not have been done if the general public was asked. Most news in politics is told to the public days behind. Politics is a heated arguement and I dont want to offend or get anyone mad. Its just that there are so many minds thinking about so little things. It is bound that disagreements happen. I think a lot of things could be handled better but they are not. To me a Holy war does not make sense. A war in the name of a religion does not make sense. Im sure some people would disagree with me on that also. See I knew that people from other countries would have a reaction against America and Americans would say they are doing the right thing. Pride for ones country offen times takes many lives. I do have pride for my country but it in a sense is for the people who formed the country and died for the country. In todays society who knows what we can do to keep the peace. It will probably never be done, I hope it does happen but it probably never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitseach Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 The UK has supported the USA in many of its hare-brained (hair-brained?) schemes but we were quick to lend support after 11/9/01, which was right and proper. There is rather more opposition however to any invasion of Iraq without a lot more evidence of direct attack from there on the UK/USA/Allies. Just because we don't like a country does not mean we can go invading it, even if that country is run by a murderous scrote. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~My karma will run over your dogma~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaF Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 Canada isnt helping much anymore either What do you mean we ain't helping anymore.... Who sent their firetrucks right away at sep. 11, we were there. We helped in the war to the best of our pathetic military's capablities. But why should we help you when your jack$&% for a president takes every moment to undermined us and I personally am insulted by it. Two incidents that come to mind right away. Is when he was first elected...the president's first foreign visit is suppose to be to their greatest friend/ally...every other pres went to Canada but not bush ...he goes to Mexico....another insulting moment when the pres had his big speech after spet.11 he mentioned thanks all sorts of countries all over the globe but doesn't mention Canada.... Then later he gives some half ass excuse saying that we are just like another one of the states so he didn't thik it was nessasary to metnion us...anyways we do help but it is obviously underappreicated, but what else is new... America has some good things going...but to say that these three (I can probably agree on Canada) are the only humanitarians is ludacris I am not sure if this was meant to mean that he agrees Canada is not helpful or he agrees that we are helpful so I will not comment on it for the moment... Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo, 17 Years Old 1st kyu Brown Belt in in Goju Ryu Karate-do, & Shodan in Okinawan KobudoGiven enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result.I AM CANADIAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizMarkie Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Sorry. What I meant was that I agree with most of the world which consider Canada to be a fair nation that aids people in dire times; A nation of humanitarians. But I do not agree on USA being such a nation. It's all about their own security and oil money. They are playing a losing game with the current attitude to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaF Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 oh ok yea I wasn't sure what you meant...glad to see we are on the same page, although everyone is intitled to their own opinion Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo, 17 Years Old 1st kyu Brown Belt in in Goju Ryu Karate-do, & Shodan in Okinawan KobudoGiven enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result.I AM CANADIAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John G Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Hey people, nothings for nothing. If you want to drive around in cars, have electricity and water on demand. Use the Internet to communicate, live in societies free of famine and plague something has to give. You are either on the side of the oppressors or you are the oppressed. If a country appears to have the capability to take what you have away from you, you stop them, if a country has something you need, you take from them. This is the way its been for tens of thousands of years, if my guns bigger that your gun you loose. The simple fact is that man is greedy. I remember as an adolescent the hippy movement, where we were all going to build a better world and live in peace. The students back then who had such high ideals are now the men and women who control our nations, what happened to their ideals? In the next 10 to 15 years it will be my generations turn to call the shots. I'm betting like the generation before we too will fail in creating a world where ALL men and women are equal regardless of race religion or ideology. I am under no illusion about the price of my freedom, my excess, and my greed. I know some poor sod is out there working their fingers to the bone making my dobok, designer jeans, shoes and shirts for nothing more than a bag of rice to feed their family. I also know that many of the third world countries were once mighty and powerful nations, until someone with a bigger gun came along and took it from them. Its strange how history has proven time and again that eventually the oppressors become the oppressed. Is what's happening in the world today right? No it's terribly wrong. The choice is yours; change the world so every one gets a fair go (and hope that someone with a bigger gun doesn't step in), or be prepared to kill maim and destroy others so you / we can enjoy our freedoms and lifestyles. John G Jarrett III Dan, ITF Taekwon-Do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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