Is America Doing the right thing.

[BlueDragon1981]

Do you think that America should meddle in other countries or worry about what is going on over here in its own country?

 

Do you think that the Florida vote was rigged considering Gore was winning then suddenly he wasnt? That seemed kind of odd to me? (they probably took a hint from the movie Blacksheep and had dead people vote, wouldnt put it past Bush)

 

Why is America always helping other countries when they never help America?

 

(we've rebuilt cities that we destroyed in wars and how do most of them repay us. By trying to bring us down.)

[G95champ]

If we did not do what we do the world would be a much worse place.

 

As far as the FLA vote Bush won. Dead people did not vote. The media blew it all out of shape. If they would not have reported the results before half the votes were in it would not have been a problem.

 

I don't who in America we don't help. We are the richest country in the world. Yeah we have homless and stuff but much less than anyone else. Our system is not perfect but its the best out there.

 

Those with power are given the right to protect others. Imagine what Iraq qoud do to the middle east if we did not keep an eye on them. Mush like you dad when you were growing up you may not understand what we do but it is in the best intrest of the peace.

 

 

[G95champ]

Note on the election.

 

IMO a person who looses his home state Tenn and his former presidents home state Ark. Does not need to win. Those 2 states beyone any should have backed Gore but they did not. Fla has always been a Republican strong hold and IMO it was classless of Gore to challenge the results. Espically more than once.

 

NOTE

 

I can see Gore trying to handel the 911 attacks. He would be like cool the WTC is down we can plant trees. Bush is the right man for the job. This goes to show that it was ment for him to be in office and America is a nation blessed and touched by GOD.

 

 

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The effect of intervening in other countries' politics might have a desired effect, but America's intentions are far from pure.

 

To the public: Freedom, Justice, and Security

 

To the Sponsors: Freedom of exploitation to Justify safety and Security.

 

As long as we are ruled by the Almight Dollar, it's going to be that way. War has never been much of a problem for America. Most of the time, it has been a great way to make money, as well as a nice publicity stunt. Until America gets beat down, which will happen sooner or later, as it does to all imperialists, it will continue to grow, expand, and corrupt itself.

 

And like all the mightiest trees of the forest, it will be impenetrable from without, while it rots to nothingness within.

 

 

[G95champ]

Well you could only make that comment in America. So think about that.....

 

I don't even think you can compare us to other countries as far as gaining land form wars. WWI and WWII we could have taken land in europe but we did not. We could have taken Japan we did not. We rebuilt them. Even after the Spanish American War we did take the Phillipeans but with the promise to free them once they got on their feet which we did after WWII.

 

Money does talk and yes we are not angles but we do it a lot better and nicer than anyone else ever has.

 

What people from other countries don't understand about America is that we are not the biggest tree. We are the trees. There is no Americian. Everyone who comes here is an American. You can not destroy one tree and get rid of us. If a few fall there are others to take its place. We stick together and make a forest. We have been burned, cut down, but you know what we grew back. Always will. America is an idea every peorson holds NOT a country.

 

 

 

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(General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."

 

[ This Message was edited by: G95champ on 2002-07-07 22:55 ]

[Eye of the Tiger]

Actually Sweeden is the richest country in the world beleive it or not due to their banks or something.

 

 

[Don Gwinn]

Oh, lord, the Florida thing rears its ugly head once more. Look, it is simply not true that "Gore was winning, then all of a sudden he wasn't."

 

The point was that Gore was NOT winning. The media analysts were projecting him as the winner, which is not nearly the same thing. When they were proven wrong and the talking heads put out retractions, there was a lot of confusion. Much of it was deliberate as network anchors didn't work very hard at making people understand that it had been their networks, and not the electoral officials, who had been declaring Gore the winner.

 

There was a lot of fraudulent activity in that election, but none has been found in Florida unless you count Gore's chad-counting schemes.

 

* St. Louis, Missouri. St. Louis, like Chicago, is a lone but very large liberal enclave in a conservative state. Democrats in St. Louis got a liberal Democrat judge to declare that too many people were waiting in line at the polls and order that they be kept open past the 7:00 deadline. He did not set a deadline; he simply said that they would stay open until he was satisfied that everyone had had their fair chance to vote. Of course, this applied ONLY in St. Louis, which meant that while lots of conservative voters were turned away throughout the state after 7:00, the Democrats were still collecting votes in their most solid district until almost 9:00, when the Republicans finally found an appellate judge willing to put a stay on the order.

 

 

[ckdstudent]

He won the popular vote, not the actual one. Besides, which president gets into power makes very little difference anyway.

Actually Sweeden is the richest country in the world beleive it or not due to their banks or something.

 

Switzerland, due to the fact that their banks (used to anyway) promise absolute secrecy, so its a great place for drug barons, government officials, high-level Enron managers, and so on to hide their gains. Also has approximately a 51% income tax rate, but you can't have it all.

America is an idea every peorson holds NOT a country.

 

So why do they check my passport each time I visit? More to the point if America is an idea that every American holds then why do they have so much trouble agreeing on what it means?

I can see Gore trying to handel the 911 attacks. He would be like cool the WTC is down we can plant trees. Bush is the right man for the job. This goes to show that it was ment for him to be in office and America is a nation blessed and touched by GOD.

 

A terrorist attack had to be carried out to prove he was the right man for the job? Lets all hope we don't get too many more like him then. Isn't religion meant to be seperate from the state in America, in fact wasn't it one of the founding principles? Seems to me like we've got more seperation between the two over here. Which god exactly is he blessed by?

If we did not do what we do the world would be a much worse place.

 

Tell that to Vietnam, or Cuba, or China, or any of the others you've got trade restrictions against. Not saying I don't necessarily agree with you, but there's a lot of people who don't share your point of view.

I don't who in America we don't help. We are the richest country in the world. Yeah we have homless and stuff but much less than anyone else. Our system is not perfect but its the best out there.

 

Look around at the people in ghettos, the poor, the homeless, those who've been chucked away by the capitalist system. No, yours is not the best out there, and its not even close to perfect.

Those with power are given the right to protect others.

 

The duty, it is not a right. It is also a known fact that those who most desire power are those least suited to hold it.

Mush like you dad when you were growing up you may not understand what we do but it is in the best intrest of the peace.

 

Whose peace exactly?

Why is America always helping other countries when they never help America?

 

I wonder, perhaps because America always insists that it doesn't need help and continues to pursue an isolationist policy? I suppose this help includes funding anti-British terrorist organisations like the IRA in your spare time? Bombing pharmaceutical factories in breach of international law in retaliation for embassy bombings? Putting trade restrictions on countries already suffering?

(we've rebuilt cities that we destroyed in wars and how do most of them repay us. By trying to bring us down.)

 

Rebuilt them? Which cities would these be? And did you rebuild the people who were killed in them?

 

I'm not trying to be anti-American, I kind of like the country, there's a kind of innocent naivity and youth about it, with patriotism still fresh in people's minds and people still going on about how old this or that house is (I live ten minutes away from a medieval castle and one of the oldest churches in England), but it is not a perfect country, and it is not the best country, people often neglect to consider that not everyone in the world is American, now matter how hard America is trying to change that.

 

 

[ZR440]

Hey CKD,

 

I know the USA is not perfect, but wonder where you get some of your info. These trade restrictions you talk of against China are BS. I see their low quality products in every store I go to. What do we gain if we eliminate trade restrictions against Cuba? Nothing really. It'll just make Castro richer and he'll continue his dictatorship. Next subject: European history. I do believe that we poured millions of dollars into rebuilding the infrastructure of Europe and Japan in the last two world wars. And...if it wasn't for the USA backing Russia and England with troops and supplies during WWII, both would had the hell knocked out of them and Europe wouldn't be what it is today. Yeah, we might not be the best country, but we don't sit back and pick our behinds like some other countries. Like a saying goes over here: Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

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Let's leave it at this before things get ugly:

 

The USA is one of the greatest countries in the world to live in. Unfortunately, the government and media are centered around money and power, which will naturally corrupt them. This is the freedom upon which the US is based, and the change will NOT come in the higher powers; you can NOT sit around waiting for the government to change.

 

The change must happen in YOU, in the public, in the people themselves. This is a democratic nation. In order to vote, you must know what you are voting for or against. Educate yourselves in the time you are spending worrying about the shortcomings of other nations.