How many weapons can you list that used to be farm equipment

[Ti-Kwon-Leap]

Hmmm... interesting jakmak52...

 

Nunchaku VS Combine: who would win in a no holds barred cage match??? :lol:

 

 

[ZeRo]

haha lol

 

 

[shaolinprincess]

Nunchaku, tonfa, kama, bo, oar ect.

[Taikudo-ka]

In European martial traditions, the majority of the great pole-arms of history were farm tools mounted on enormously long poles. With such a weapon, peasant foot soldiers were able to defeat heavily armed and armored knights.

 

There are almost infinite variations on the pole-arm theme - pole axes, halberbs, pikes, glaives, guisarms, etc, etc. Some had poles up to six meters in length.

 

See http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dungeon/9939/arms.htm for details on these weapons.

[Ti-Kwon-Leap]

That was a great link, Taikudo-ka.

 

I didn't see the garden weasel though...

 

http://www.gardenweasel.com/

 

[ This Message was edited by: Ti-Kwon-Leap on 2002-07-16 04:24 ]

[SaiFightsMS]

Yeah great link Taikudo-ka

 

 

[omnifinite]

No, the zai were not used to cook meat. The zai is probably the only weapon used in Okinawan Kobudo that wasn't really a farming weapon.

 

I've heard the sai was originally a pin used to hold the cart to the oxen yoke. The person would often have more than one lying around because they were brittle enough to break semi-frequently. Used as a weapon, people often had three of them at their disposal. Sounds pretty plausible to me.

 

Another sai explanation I've heard is for planting seeds. Bore the hole for the seed, then lay the sai down sideways to gauge the distance where the next seed should go. That doesn't really explain the forks though.

[BlueDragon1981]

The Nuchukus were often used to beat grain.

 

[LeaF]

I have heard many theories on the uses of the sai...

 

http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~m9209392/Saihistory.htm

 

http://www.thekarateacademy.com/history/weapons.htm#Sai

 

http://www.kenshin-kan.com/weapon.html

 

each on of these sites presents a different theory altough there is a nother which I read somewhere but teds to be less common.

 

A chickens head may have been placed between two prongs which where then placed in the soil to help hold the chickens head in place while it was killed.

 

so yea believe what you may and hopefully you will find these sites helpful

 

altough I believe they were a farming tool. I say this because if they weren't their existence you have not been allowee in okinawa and it would have seemed very unlikly this art would be pratice in together with the other weapons that help forumlate what we know today as kobudo

[Tobias_Reece]

Sorry, missed this topic but just caught it today.

 

The main reason for the zai not being thought of as being farm tools is because of the materials used.

 

Metal was not readily available to the peasants.

 

Another theory is that the manji-sai was a police symbol used in much the same way as a badge.

 

Anyway,this seems to be quite a popular topic