Kissaki

[Traymond]

Does anyone know anything about Kissaki Kai Karate Do. i might be taking this style while im in Big rapids for Pharmacy college. Their katas are pretty Shotokan, but what are their ranking styles? And what are their time requirements if any?.

The katas are

Taikyoku Shodan

Heian 1-5

Bassai

and Empi

So its shotokan all the way almost.

Does anyone know anything else about this style?

[Kruczek]

http://www.kissakikarate.com/history.htm

Not my cup of tea but seems to be growing throughout the world.

http://www.karateacademy.org.uk/adultclasses.htm

The photo there seems to indicate the ranks to be:

White, Yellow, Orange, Green, Blue, Brown, Black (1st - 8th dan)

[Wa-No-Michi]

The group is headed by Vince Morris a British "Shotokany" from the SKI (Asano camp).

One of the very early guys to jump onto the SP/Bunkai-Jutsu band waggon - sort of led the way for many (including this forums darling IA).

If that sort of thing floats your boat, look him up. I believe he and his group are now resident in the US.

[Traymond]

Hmmm I just want to know if within 5 years I would be able to achieve a brown belt from them. I want my five years their to achieve something other than just getting my PHd in Pharmacology. And its close to a style im doing now if its shotokan based (Kajukenpo). I would prefer to continue my Uechi Ryu but I have not been able to find one thats based around there yet.

[bushido_man96]

As opposed to the rank, I would think about the knowledge you can gain in 5 years.

[JusticeZero]

Right. In five years, you can achieve learning about five years of material; what rank five years of material implies in any given style is of lesser importance, as it is in no way a standard. There are a number of organizations out there whose black belts simply don't garner much respect, because the belt is earned so cheaply. There are other arts where if you walk in saying "I have a brown belt", people cower in terror at your sheer awesomeness. As a rule, it seems that experience and quality of instruction is more important than what color of cloth stripe you have on your waist.

[Traymond]

Right. In five years, you can achieve learning about five years of material; what rank five years of material implies in any given style is of lesser importance, as it is in no way a standard. There are a number of organizations out there whose black belts simply don't garner much respect, because the belt is earned so cheaply. There are other arts where if you walk in saying "I have a brown belt", people cower in terror at your sheer awesomeness. As a rule, it seems that experience and quality of instruction is more important than what color of cloth stripe you have on your waist.

And their are also some people like me...that no matter what your style or what your rank has no feeble recognition for any one other than his teacher. My opinion in martial arts is that you can learn everything half right but you will always have your whole life to perfect it...thats my philosophy. I learn all that I can in the time I am their and then I spend my life perfecting it as far as I can. I look at a TaE Kwon Do champion the same as I look at a kyokushinkai champion, they are good, but they can always spend their time to improve their style as well. Five years in one style is enough time to grant someone a ikkyu especially with someone transversed in other arts not just one.

[Dobbersky]

If I was you I'd just join the Kissaki Dojo and see what happens, if all else you'll be 5 years better than you were when you started.

[Traymond]

Im still considering the differant styles

Kissaki would be easier for me because I have prior training in all their katas...Kissaki has more of a bunkai break down in a modern way.

I would like to continue my Uechi Ryu and I would also like to continue my Shito Ryu and Shorin Ryu,

but now Enshin Kyokushinkai has been thrown to me so I may take that as well to increase my sparring.

I have training in Sanda so Enshin should compliment it well...so im still thinking thats why I want input on differant styles as well as Kissaki...but I dont notice anyone on here who is a member of it.

[Dobbersky]

Traymond

Respectfully, May I ask why you practice so many styles. I have been down the avenue of practicing, this and That but I have narrowed it down to 2 Ashihara (koku tora ryu) and Wado Ryu, I attend Various other styles for a few months just for a bit of fun. but I only formally practice the 2.

I wondre if you have heard the saying about chasing 2 rabbits.......

I would look at 1 style and 1 style only until you reach Shodan, then look at cross training.

Osu