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Help me find a hard style with sparring to compliment Aikido


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Thanks for the replies everybody!

With regard to Wado-ryu, youtube leads me to believe it uses point-sparring. I don't mean to be dismissive, but I'm not sure that's right for me. Ashihara or Enshin I'll be on the lookout for, though. It's interesting that they share some basic ideas with the Aikido I'm learning.

Just to qualify this statement.

Point scoring Karate or "Shiai kumite" is not confined to Wado. Most of the Major Karate styles practice Shiai.

More specifically Wado, clubs will practice "Jiyu Kumite" or free fighting and this is not the same as point scoring karate. It is a continuous form of fighting that actively engages techniques that can be found in Wado's Jujutsu side of things, as well as the kicking and punching of Karate.

Wado is an art with a great deal more depth than many. It can not be learned overnight, and for some this does not fit their agenda.

If it is cross training to get better at kicking and punching that you are after... "adding teeth" to your Aikido for example. Kyokushin is maybe a good style for you.

WNM

Edited by Wa-No-Michi

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I've had a rethink on this.

You want the locks and throws of Aikido with the added influx of strikes. There is a simple answer - give up Aikido and start Hapkido, it is Korean but I can say it will answer all your questions and give you exactly what you are looking for

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Hapkido is an option, as is blending Aikido with a striking style. I train in Aikido but come from a Goju Ryu background. I absolutely love Aikido, but I would never recommend that someone train solely in it if self defense is the aim. Aikido plus any good, hard striking style makes a highly effective MA, IMO.

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I absolutely love Aikido, but I would never recommend that someone train solely in it if self defense is the aim. Aikido plus any good, hard striking style makes a highly effective MA, IMO.

As an addendum, I think that the founder of Aikido tended to only teach those who had prior martial arts experience. A knowledge of basic stand up technique is assumed in the art, I think. It seems that most Aikido schools have given up on that requirement, though...it's not good for business....

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If it is cross training to get better at kicking and punching that you are after... "adding teeth" to your Aikido for example. Kyokushin is maybe a good style for you.

WNM

Just to test my history knowledge, didn't the founder of Wado begin learning a Karate style to "give his Aikijujitsu teeth?"

(I apologize that I cannot think of who the founder of Wado is, WNM.)

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If it is cross training to get better at kicking and punching that you are after... "adding teeth" to your Aikido for example. Kyokushin is maybe a good style for you.

WNM

Just to test my history knowledge, didn't the founder of Wado begin learning a Karate style to "give his Aikijujitsu teeth?"

(I apologize that I cannot think of who the founder of Wado is, WNM.)

Hironori Ohtsuka.

Yes, I have heard that said before about him wanting to give some teeth to his jujutsu, but I am not sure whether or nor he actually said this or suggested it himself.

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Look for a place that emphasizes sparring as an integral part of training. Kyokushin and its offshoot schools such as enshin have already been thrown out there as suggestions if you are going to do karate. Sometimes you get free sparring in styles like shotokan, but it isn't as common.

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It depends on the school. In Wado Ryu we do have point sparring in competition, but in the dojo I attend we also have fairly intense continuous sparring with contact. The best thing would be to ask the instructor or visit a dojo and watch them spar.

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