MuayThai Fighter Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 I heard from a freind who heard from this one guy who dont know squat. KNOW YOUR LAWS!!! On the post anyways anything can be considered a stance. like that one guy posted thats just a non agressive stance to not provoke the fighter then if he strikes you do whatever motion to defend attack etc... i think personally the best way to learn is to practice in a variety of stances to get an idea of which stance is best. and remember to practice in stances that you are uncomfortable in. 9 times out of 10(exageration) thats going to be the stance thats the best to win or you have gotten yourself into. [ This Message was edited by: artoftheninja on 2002-07-09 12:12 ] If I got into a fight with you,I'd be laughing to see you go into a stance thinking I'm going to be threatened,going into any stance in a real situation is the worst thing to do and also the best way to lose.I can't believe every one here is saying what kind of stance is good in a real fight. Kata stances are useless both in competition and on street,I don't even know why people bother learning and practicing them. The only stance I can see working is to just stand naturally like most people would in a fight,but still using hips like in martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThai Fighter Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 a good stance is when one hand is held back for defense and one for offense and the same with the legs. The only stance that would work in a real life situation is a muay thai fighting stance,we call south paw. South paw isn't really a stance,because if you think about it,most normal people stand that way in a real fight even without martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThai Fighter Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 i like to use non-violent postures to strike from ,also i use the southpaw stance(boxer) and a relaxed front stance that i learned in praying mantis I use southpaw stance too,because I'm a muay thai fighter,besides only stance that makes any sense. Do you not agree though that southpaw,even though considered a stance in martial arts, isn't really a stance,because don't most people stand that way to fight anyways,unless they are in traditional arts like karate,tae kwon do,all the useless styles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThai Fighter Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 Bon, I agree that a BJJ/Muay Thai combo is fast and effective street defense. It'll pull you through almost any rough situation. But what I do not tolerate is MMA masochists claiming that traditional arts are useless. BJJ and Muay Thai are in their place, but pit either one of them against a good Aikidoka, and that match is over. And besides that, Aikido will change you. Not only as a fighter, but as a person. You learn to accept people as they are, rarely get angry, learn to control your temper, and understand why people act the way they do. MMA will not teach you that. It is simply fighting, period. Traditional MA is more than just training your body; you are training yourself, and 11 years down the road, it pays off. I agree and disagree. First of all you're right Aikido can change a person,teach one to learn to control their temper and understand why people act the way they,but so do other martial arts styles. As someone who has done traditional arts for 12yrs.before changing to muay thai,I agree that traditional arts is also good for conditioning and training who you are. However I disagree that traditional arts can be good for self-defense infact,when it comes to that,they are useless,people like you just don't want to hear the truth.To say an Aikido person would win over a muay thai person is B.S. Everyone or most people anyways know that muay thai is known as one of the most deadly martial arts of all time.We kick with shins,knees,use elbows etc. I have never done Aikido before but would like to one day,but I can definitely tell you against a muay thai fighter you guys would be history. No individual art can beat a muay thai kickboxer,only non-traditional mixed styles would beat a muay thai person. I do Pankration which is one of the unbeatable arts since pankration is muay thai combined with grappling.When you can fight both stand up and on ground it is hard to be beat. When I compete I fight muay thai. Arts like pankration,shoot fighting,savate and a few others will almost never be beat in competition,we can fight any style and win. Muay Thai on its own is very deadly,in fact the best stand up fighting style,so imagine what it is like when combined with submission wrestling. If Aikido can beat a muay thai fighter or most other styles how come they never compete in UFC?The reason is because they know they'd lose big time.Traditional arts for this same reason won't bother trying to get into the octagon. A muay thai fighter with only 4 months training would most likely kick butt on a person with 10 or more years experience of Aikido. The only way I can imagine Aikido working in a real fight is if it is mixed with other styles like muay thai,boxing and other mixed styles that I mentioned earlier,or being practiced by people who have several years experience in MA already. I've been in MA. for 16yrs.I did karate for 12yrs.and Pankration I've now been doing for 4yrs.There is no way an Aikido person would beat me in competition if they competed neither would tradtional arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle-san Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 No individual art can beat a muay thai kickboxer,only non-traditional mixed styles would beat a muay thai person. That's such a terrible conclusion to come to, why don't you explain to me how a Muay Thai kickboxer can beat any traditional style. Please include a specific explaination about Jujutsu so I have something to relate to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJS Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 No individual art can beat a muay thai kickboxer,only non-traditional mixed styles would beat a muay thai person Thats rediculous. I belive MT is One of the most effective standup fighting styles in the world. but to mkae a blanket statment like that is simply wrong. Under what? MT rules? Gerard Gordau MT, so did several otehr people in the early UFC's. BJJ/Wrestler all have a good chance at beating one, and they have. Standup fighting MT is usually dominate but there are other effective styles. San Shao, Kyokoshin, KM, Burmese boxing etc. you cant say a MT fight will ALWAYS win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirves Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 No individual art can beat a muay thai kickboxer Aha. So which muay thai kickboxer are you talking about? The one next door who started yesterday? The one who's the national champ? Which one? BTW: I have never in my life seen a kickboxer or any martial artist been beat by an individual art... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramymensa Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 This is quite ridiculous ... We've come AGAIN to the same BS ... MT is the best ... traditional styles are crap ... katas suck ... and so on. The problem is though SERIOUS. Some words are thrown without seconf thoughts, some stupid remarks come just for the sake of writing something. This is an informational forum, I guess and we should act more "professionally". There are some people who log here to LEARN from others, we log in Karate Forums to learn about different styles and what do we get? B.ll S..t. That's what !!! We have some people here who just came in to mock other styles. I think our moderators should do something in this matter Or shall we send these guys to the library to read something? World Shotokan Karate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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