sensei8 Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Would you take lessons from and/or train with an overweight instructor? **Proof is on the floor!!!
JusticeZero Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Yes; I -am- an 'overweight instructor', in spite of eating decently healthy, practicing regularly, and going everywhere on a bicycle for extra exercize. I can do all sorts of stuff that people who don't have any form of weight issue can't dream of, and it's the skill people are looking for; not whether I can flex and look like an action figure.In truth, if I have spent too much time worrying about building up strength, it is an indication that I am missing the point of the art; I have my skill so that I can do things when my fitness is gone. There will always be someone stronger, and strength can be taken from me by so many things. it's like saying that you don't need martial arts because you have a gun, even though you often don't have the gun on hand. Your fitness won't be there when you need it either. "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia
bushido_man96 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 Maybe.. but without skill, your fitness won't go very far.I don't know about that for certain; an example would be a guy like Kimbo Slice. His fitness levels accounted for the brief level of success that he experienced in MMA.People are also fond of saying that "there is always someone stronger," but there is often always someone that is more skilled, as well. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
JusticeZero Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 People are also fond of saying that "there is always someone stronger," but there is often always someone that is more skilled, as well.Sure; you have to train to beat them, too. You won't do it by going head to head. "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia
bushido_man96 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 That's why I think its good to be concerned with both. And I don't think that one has to be the strongest out there at all, either. I think that in the end, its a total package. Good fitness levels, along with skill levels, to make you the best that you can be.I'm with you on the "overweight instructor" bit. I'm only 5'8", and weigh in at about 240, and I'm not cut, by any stretch. I carry around the spare tire, and I can't run very fast, nor very far. But, I do what I can to improve my fitness levels, both for my MA career and for my work. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
sensei8 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 I too am an overweight instructor, not by choice, but nonetheless, I fit into the acceptable definition. I echo the sentiments of both Brian and JusticeZero, while I don't try to be overweight, I still am. I've a spare tire or two around my gut. It angers my Dai-Soke to no end, yet, he doesn't allow the look of my outer shell to take anything away from my skills. Why? He never questions his decisions on whom and why his students have been promoted or whom they are as individuals, therefore, not one Shindokan By-Law says that one must look like a Charles Atlas...this is good...because I don't...look like a Charles Atlas.Don't judge a book...me...by its cover, what's on the outside, but rather, judge me by the context of my martial arts knowledge as well as my skills, in that order! After that....proof is always found on the floor! Many may say "He's overweight" to themselves when I first meet them, but, once on the floor, I erase any and all doubts. **Proof is on the floor!!!
blackbeltshop Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 What i think you should be 100% in all three Mental+Physical+Skills, to be able to excel in martial arts field Martial Arts Supplies
Kuma Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Maybe.. but without skill, your fitness won't go very far.I don't know about that for certain; an example would be a guy like Kimbo Slice. His fitness levels accounted for the brief level of success that he experienced in MMA.People are also fond of saying that "there is always someone stronger," but there is often always someone that is more skilled, as well.I agree with BM. If you have a good amount of fitness you would be surprised what they could do. A good example of that is Brad Imes from the second season of TUF. He hadn't even been training for one year in MMA when he got there, and he did a decent job. You take a well conditioned student and one that's in poor shape and train them both in the same things, you will see a dramatic difference.
Kuma Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Would you take lessons from and/or train with an overweight instructor? Sure would. It's their knowledge I'm after, and if they can deliver as an instructor then I don't care what they look like.
sensei8 Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 What i think you should be 100% in all three Mental+Physical+Skills, to be able to excel in martial arts fieldOuchy! True, but, still...ouchy! **Proof is on the floor!!!
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