bunkai of the Pinan Katas

[unknownstyle]

wanted to hear some other ideas as to the bunkai you know for the pinan katas. ive been researching them alot and am trying to come up with some new concepts.

[swadoryu2000]

Well, I know a lot of bunkai's I have come up with. One of them, for example, is the opening move of Pinan Yodan with the open-hand blocks (or strikes, depending on how you look at it). Our (how my sensei teaches it) opening move is stepping out in neiko ashi dachi with the two open hand block, with the left out in a chudan position, and the right in a jodan position. Well, one way is that you can block with the left shuto (if the opponent is comming in with a chudan tsuki), grabbing the punch with the left hand, pulling it in ( hence the pullback position) while twisting your hips (you'll end up in a zenkutsu dachi) and doing a shuto uchi to the neck with the right shuto. Heh, I know it's hard to describe in words, but that's just one of the bunkai I found in that kata.

[Wa-No-Michi]

Well, I know a lot of bunkai's I have come up with. One of them, for example, is the opening move of Pinan Yodan with the open-hand blocks (or strikes, depending on how you look at it). Our (how my sensei teaches it) opening move is stepping out in neiko ashi dachi with the two open hand block, with the left out in a chudan position, and the right in a jodan position. Well, one way is that you can block with the left shuto (if the opponent is comming in with a chudan tsuki), grabbing the punch with the left hand, pulling it in ( hence the pullback position) while twisting your hips (you'll end up in a zenkutsu dachi) and doing a shuto uchi to the neck with the right shuto. Heh, I know it's hard to describe in words, but that's just one of the bunkai I found in that kata.

Cool, another Wado-ka on the forum.

swadoryu2000, the Bunkai or Kaisetsu (as its more generally referred to in Wado), you have explained here is pretty standard, although as I understand it, the Haishu-uke (back of hand block) is performed against a Jodan Tsuki (not Chudan) in the Kata.

The right hand is not so much of a block. As I understand it is performed as protection / Kamae (preparation) for the next technique of which a shuto strike to the throat as you explain, is probably the one of my faves as well.

Either Way, pretty cool.

Edit: spelling

Edited October 29, 2008 by Wa-No-Michi

[Wa-No-Michi]

So after you have repeated this combination to the other side, how do you see the next technique - Step forward X block?

[swadoryu2000]

Wa-No-Michi, you're right about the jodan uke. That is how I do it in the kata also. I can't put the description in words as well as you do. But it's pretty much the same as what you said, only more accurate. In Pinan Shodan, the opening move is a jodan uke and an age tsuki, least that's how I perform it (rising punch, uppercut, whatever you want to call it). How do you see the opening moves as?

[Wa-No-Michi]

. In Pinan Shodan, the opening move is a jodan uke and an age tsuki, least that's how I perform it (rising punch, uppercut, whatever you want to call it). How do you see the opening moves as?

Soto uke Jodan (outer block head) with the left, and the right in front of the forehead in protection / kamae (preparation) form.

Never heard of it refer to as age tsuki (rising punch) and I think it sort of defeats the purpose of practicing this move in the kata this way.

[swadoryu2000]

So after you have repeated this combination to the other side, how do you see the next technique - Step forward X block?

Yes, we step foward with a low x-block. Then, without stepping foward, tuck the x-block in (over the knot in the obi), opening your hands, bring it up over your head, crossing the hands over (originally it was right over left, now it's left over right) and bring it down to your obi. I see it (this whole sequence) is that someone mae geri'ed you toward the crotch, you x-block, twisting the opponent's foot as you cross the hands so the opponent will face the opposite direction. And from there, you can do whatever. Again, hard to describe, but that's how I see that move.

[Wa-No-Michi]

So after you have repeated this combination to the other side, how do you see the next technique - Step forward X block?

Yes, we step foward with a low x-block. Then, without stepping foward, tuck the x-block in (over the knot in the obi), opening your hands, bring it up over your head, crossing the hands over (originally it was right over left, now it's left over right) and bring it down to your obi. I see it (this whole sequence) is that someone mae geri'ed you toward the crotch, you x-block, twisting the opponent's foot as you cross the hands so the opponent will face the opposite direction. And from there, you can do whatever. Again, hard to describe, but that's how I see that move.

I see this as a move from Pinan Godan? Weren't we talking about the third sequence of Pinan Yondan?

Not your fault, this thread has jumped about a fair bit.

[swadoryu2000]

So after you have repeated this combination to the other side, how do you see the next technique - Step forward X block?

Yes, we step foward with a low x-block. Then, without stepping foward, tuck the x-block in (over the knot in the obi), opening your hands, bring it up over your head, crossing the hands over (originally it was right over left, now it's left over right) and bring it down to your obi. I see it (this whole sequence) is that someone mae geri'ed you toward the crotch, you x-block, twisting the opponent's foot as you cross the hands so the opponent will face the opposite direction. And from there, you can do whatever. Again, hard to describe, but that's how I see that move.

I see this as a move from Pinan Godan? Weren't we talking about the third sequence of Pinan Yondan?

Not your fault, this thread has jumped about a fair bit.

Oh my fault, I'm thinking of Pinan Godan, hehe. Let's stick with Yodan for now, for less confusion if you want. Ok, with the x-block in Yodan, could blocking a mae geri, but catching it before the opponent makes contact (around the shin area is how I see it). Then the next move in the kata is stepping foward with a reinforced block. You could be catching the kick and shoving them off.

[Wa-No-Michi]

Ok, with the x-block in Yodan, could blocking a mae geri, but catching it before the opponent makes contact (around the shin area is how I see it). Then the next move in the kata is stepping foward with a reinforced block. You could be catching the kick and shoving them off.

Ok now we're off...

One way I see this move is pressing down an opponents guard with the left whilst simultaneously striking (over the top) with the right.

Lets get a list of options going.