advantages of cord nunchaku

[Martial_Artist]

Used as a farming instrument. Correct. Have you ever used that farming instrument? I have. I have harvested rice in Southeast Asia, the Philippines. The cords are 7-9 inches long. They also have a prong protruding from the side of one of the sticks. Try doing it with a short cord and your work is futile. Also, they've been harvesting rice in the philippines in the same manner for hundreds of years, most of the areas are still way underdeveloped.

 

So, traditional chucks, based on rice flailers would then have had long cords.(7-9in.)

 

Also, having been to Japan, where rice was once harvested using archaic methods, and in some very rural areas is, the cords are longer than the cords that come on commercially available nunchuks, which by the way are primarily from Taiwan and are manufactured to sell on the mass market and are not designed for combat.

 

For fighting, if that is what you intend to do with them, the better choice is a longer chain. If not, or if you don't care which is better, the short chain/cord.

 

 

[Martial_Artist]

On 2002-06-27 17:24, Tobias_Reece wrote:

 

I have just come back from a date with a girl I will never see again, so I'm pretty disapointed (to an extent - shes french!!!!!). I arrive home to check out the weapons section only to find a very 'interesting' thread about nunchaku. I'll try to keep my anger to a minimum -after all, let's save the heated discussions for e-budo.com

 

I don't want to start an arguement (well, i do actually, I just can't be bothered), but it seems to me that you are talking about the modern version of nunchaku. Traditionally, metal was not available, so chord was used. To say that tradition nunchaku were designed with chain for combat is a laughing matter.

 

The chord is short for moves such as san kaku-jime. Try and wrap a long chain around a bandits neck (in the older days) and you would have been killed before you have it locked on!

 

May I ask when style of nunchaku you practice - japanese or okinawan (or do you just swing them about wildly) I know that you must practice either japanese or okinawan because the other countries didn't call them nunchaku.

 

You have confused me to no end, so please, shed some light on that ridiculous drivel you posted.

 

Cheers

 

Yes, traditionally the nunchaku were not made with metal, duh! Neither was a chain used, truth to that. Length of cord was the point to my ridiculous drivel. The cords were longer than the ones commercially available today.

 

Wrapping the chain around an opponents neck, with a chain 7-9 in is no less as effective as with a short cord. The latter being less effective in other parts of combat. If all you plan to do is choke your opponent out then a choking cord would be a better choice. If there is more to the combat than just choking then you'd better stick with a longer chain than the ones commercially available.

 

Japanese, okinawan, southeast asian, or any other regional system of nunchaku makes no difference. A nunchaku is a nunchaku, it moves in a certain manner, there are certain rules governing its movements, laws of physics. There are movements made by the nunchaku that are more efficient and efficacious than others for certain instances and circumstances.

 

I practice the art of martial arts, in their purity. Physics only happen in one way. Men have two arms, two legs, regardless of the attack they throw, regardless of the style attached to it, it is still a man behind that movement and his body moves no different from mine. I profess no style, I denounce styles as limitation and boundary. I am a martial artist of the purest form. My movements have nothing wasted, have nothing short of efficiency and efficacy.

 

The same for the weapons I choose to use. Whether it is knife, bo, sword, or nunchaku (a word given to an item irrelevant to its origin for my purposes) They all have movements and uses governed by laws of physics and human form. Whether okinawan or any other form of weapon art is used, the person wielding that weapon is only limited by how he knows to use that weapon. Regardless of the name attached to the attack, the attack is still held by a man using that weapon.

 

Therefore, I am styleless. I, therefore, possess every style. I am not limited by boundary of technique or style. I move as perfectly as the human body has been designed to move. My mind has not boundary in style.

 

When I wield the nunchaku I wield it not according to movements that have been taught me from a style or pattern. I wield it as efficiently as the human body can. The perfection of the human form is my guide. There is nothing WILD to what I do. Everything is calculated and precise.

 

Don't feel sad if you don't comprehend this, I don't expect you to. I don't care if you do. But I do care that where my knowledge comes from be clear. Martial arts in purity.

 

It doesn't really matter. You will continue in what you do and I in what I do. I am not trying to convince anyone that whay I do is better, nor am I here to preach my gospel. I offer what I can in a communal environment to help others. Whether they accept that or not is irrelevant to me. Whether other people know me or about me, irrelevant. I only share what I wish and disclose what I feel appropiate.

 

I suppose it doesn't matter, short vs long. You can do what you want. I'm sure you have experts on the subject. But, don't blind yourself so much that you won't realize the earth is round.

 

If I sounded aggressive, I apologize. I am not.

 

Maybe, just maybe, all this is unnecessary and you have just had a bad night. Thinking with an unclear mind never allows proper comprehension.

 

If you don't know me, or have never heard of me in martial arts circles, it is only because I don't care much for it. I am not a modernist, or traditionalist. I am a martial artist and seek not to gain recognition, but to help those I can. I respect those seeking to do the same.

 

 

[Withers M.A.A.]

The cord nunchaku are better for the fact they are lighter, faster, and they won't bind like one with a chain. Most of the ball bearing swivel ones won't bind but the cord is usually your better bet. The chain nunchaku are however, a bit stronger.

 

 

[G95champ]

Everytime I try and play with either kind I hit myself. So the only advantage I have found is that the rubber ones are softer. LOL.

 

Like anything there are pros and cons. Honestly I never game it much thought.

 

 

[Martial_Artist]

It all really boils down to personal taste and use. Like G95Champ said, everything has pros and cons.

 

 

[Tobias_Reece]

Ok M_A, I was a bit rude, apologies.

 

I'm not here to start fights......plus you answered my inane ramble with respect and dignity. I like that......

 

As Bill Rushman would say....humble respects with a bow

 

 

[ZeRo]

On 2002-06-27 13:46, Ti-Kwon-Leap wrote:

 

And like me you love Minor Threat...

 

It's like we are in paralell universes...

 

 

do you know about straight edge? i went straight edge about a year ago, after all my friends dicided it would be a good idea to start smoking and drinkin. what do you think about it? (sorry for being abit off topic!)

 

 

[Martial_Artist]

T_R,

 

No prob. Nothing personal, right. No harm, no foul.

 

 

[KickChick]

that's the MA spirit exemplified guys!

 

Sorry to hear about your date Tobias

 

... better luck next time ... French huh?

 

 

[Ti-Kwon-Leap]

First, to XpOiSoN FrEeX: Smoking and drinking is for people who have too many brain cells. I have been a musician for 20 odd years and have watched others in the music biz waste away and prematurely age.

 

I am not straight edge but I'm about as close as they come. (no smoking and an occasional beer) I run circles around kids half my age who party. In other words, you are doing the right thing.

 

To Martial_Artist:

 

My nunchaku cord is just long enough to trap a baseball bat.

 

If you want to discuss physics a slightly shorter cord/chain makes the nunchaku swing considerably faster. Also, long chain has it's disadvantages in smaller spaces. I do not carry my nunchaku out of the house and there is not alot of room because of my wife's decorating habits so I feel they are more effective given my circumstances.

 

I have trained and learned with this length of cord for 20 years and in my opinion It comes down to who strikes first.

 

If say, someone someone winds up for a "home run" I wouldn't bother trying to trap the bat, I would simply break the nearest arm and with a shorter cord I would have a better chance of a first strike.

 

For use against varied weapons in a wide open space I would most likely opt for your choice for the reasons you stated plus increased range.

 

As you said, Personal preferences have alot to do with making choices and a weapon should fit the strategies and tactics of the individual.

 

I appreciate your posts. They are thought provoking and are welcome anytime.