tenshinka Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Tekki for all okinawan styles!!Okinawan? Wouldn't that make it Naihanchi??? Duh - haha - We call it Tekki though so Im gonna say Tekki. I suppose I could also say that its a much improved form of naihanchi thus is superior and again would be referred to as Tekki not Naihanchi.I will also say that Funikoshi changed the name but Ankō Itosu is credited with changing the kata. So no mainland arguements here. So prolly more accurate to say naihanchi=old way, and Tekki=new way.After viewing a master and a local Shorin Ryu guy do naihanchi I much prefer the new version. The old way looks funny and weak! Just messing with ya In anycase, the old way looks "funny and weak"??? I dunno what "old way" you refer to (which may be a new interpretation of the old way lol), but check this out:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXENONqcdQsIn comparison, those funny manji blocks that Funakoshi threw in there are funny IMHO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoto4Life Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I knew that would spark something.Yea Itosu changed Naihanchi. He broke it into three parts. So those that call it that still should probably still being doing it the old way as one kata. Most Okis I believe opted to keep the old way and called it Naihanchi.That link is the same as we pratice it but we are faster and deeper in stance. Which is our Tekki 1. Thats not the original old way Naihanchi.The video I saw from like a 50s Oki master, along with a local shorin guy do it different from that, they had a couple different moves and it was done really slowly, upright and choppy. Real weak looking. If I had to describe it Id say it was like mixing our Tekki 1 and 3 together from sort of a natural stance with a kinna rocking slowly pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoto4Life Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Here we go: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoto4Life Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Now this is poor quality but I think much stronger looking even from smaller man. Also can you believe 1924: For fun to check this one, I havent seen it done like this before. Its almost like he is slapping around a bullwhip of ki:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DEVYxsihlE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenshinka Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I would not use Isshin Ryu (especially that version of the form), as fair comparison...Most of the Isshin Ryu forms, are different from the older Okinawan styles...Notice the Naihanchi starts on the left...Also that form looks like it was done just to demonstrate the movements on camera...Here is me doing the first version I learned in Tang Soo Do:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xn507erIOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) Now this is poor quality but I think much stronger looking even from smaller man. Also can you believe 1924: Funakoshi ought to be good at it. From what I understand, he spent the first 7 years of his training in Karate on Tekki.Here is me doing the first version I learned in Tang Soo Do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xn507erIOUI didn't realize that TSD had a version of the form. It makes sense that it would, but I just had never seen it before. Thanks for sharing it. Edited September 19, 2008 by bushido_man96 https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoriKid Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Just throwing out a version of Naihanchi that isn't done at half speed. Hands are a little "lose" on this guy, and his knees a bit out, but it's the best I could find in a quick search at this hour. Kisshu fushin, Oni te hotoke kokoro. A demon's hand, a saint's heart. -- Osensei Shoshin Nagamine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 He does have a funny kind of whip going on there. He's got some good snap, though. Nice. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobbersky Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Naihanchi Kata was used in James Bond - Casino Royale when he fought that guy on the crane. I’m Wado trained so I’m calling the kata as Sosai called it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPYOQRJ7PRc "Challenge is a Dragon with a Gift in its mouth....Tame the Dragon and the Gift is Yours....." Noela Evans (author) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adonis Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Don't remember much of my Kata any more. Probably only ones I remember or some times practice is So, tan Haktusuru, and San he thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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