ShoriKid Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 I think Nanhanchi and Kusanku(which I'm really bad at right now). Chinto I love(everything on a 45 degree angle) and see where the angled applications come in at, but if I only get two, I can't say it's one. No. 3, sure though. Kisshu fushin, Oni te hotoke kokoro. A demon's hand, a saint's heart. -- Osensei Shoshin Nagamine
DWx Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 There's also only 24 Hangul letters. And 24 is the smallest number to be divisible by exactly 8 factors (again an important Asian number) but I think that last one is just coincidence.I didn't realize that Hangul is a letter system. When you stated that 24 is the smallest number to be divisible by exactly eight factors, DMx, it got me thinking to solve it (1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12, 24), and as you stated, eight is an important Asian number.There was a book called The Celestine Prophecy that was popular back in the '90s. One of its thought-provoking claims was that there are no coincidences.I don't know whether "letters" is the right word for it. I think the proper term is "Jamo" (sp?) but anyway there are 24 bits that you put together. And thank Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_(number) , for the number fact. I'm not that clever to just think these things up. I don't know whether Gen. Choi would put that much thought into the whole 24 forms for his system. I would expect that most of the mathematical properties just like an added bonus after the idea of 24 hours. "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius
Dobbersky Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Tekki for all okinawan styles!!Okinawan? Wouldn't that make it Naihanchi??? Ah, its semantics, isn't it?? For my TKD style, I think Choong Moo.exactly only japanese styles use the name Tekki, Naihanchi is the okinawan name and the okinawan kata are much different from the mainland stylesNot 100% certain but I think it may only be Shotokan that refer to it as Tekki as Funakoshi is credited with changing the names.Other mainland Japanese styles either don't do the Kata or refer to it as Naihanchi - its original Okinawan / Chinese name.I always believed Wado Ryu was a Mainland style but Wado still lists it kata in the original Okinawan formatWado also uses the term Kushanku instead of Kanku Dai, Seichan instead of Hangetsu and Chinto instead of Gankaku etcI wonder why this is. "Challenge is a Dragon with a Gift in its mouth....Tame the Dragon and the Gift is Yours....." Noela Evans (author)
Zanshin Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Tekki for all okinawan styles!!Okinawan? Wouldn't that make it Naihanchi??? Ah, its semantics, isn't it?? For my TKD style, I think Choong Moo.exactly only japanese styles use the name Tekki, Naihanchi is the okinawan name and the okinawan kata are much different from the mainland stylesNot 100% certain but I think it may only be Shotokan that refer to it as Tekki as Funakoshi is credited with changing the names.Other mainland Japanese styles either don't do the Kata or refer to it as Naihanchi - its original Okinawan / Chinese name.I always believed Wado Ryu Was a Mainland style but Wado still lists it kata in the original Okinawan formatI wonder why this is.Because Otsuka Sensei decided that he wanted to use the "On" (Chinese) reading of the Kanji rather than the Japanese "Kun" reading to reflect their origins.But yes Wado is a Mainland Japanese Karate as the wording "Wa" describes. "The difference between the possible and impossible is one's will""saya no uchi de katsu" - Victory in the scabbbard of the sword. (One must obtain victory while the sword is undrawn).https://www.art-of-budo.com
FushinRyu Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 My style Fushin Ryu's style's kata would have to be kushanku. it basically blends all of our katas together. i know that this kata is used in other styles too! proud brown belt of Fushin Ryu style!
bushido_man96 Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 For my TKD style, I think Choong Moo.What is it about Choong Moo that connects it to your style?Is it the movement, speed etc.?I would say Choong Moo hyung because it has a flying side kick in it, a back leg round kick-to-spin side kick combination, that characterize the kicking elements of TKD, along with the many hand technique attacking and blocking combinations that link it to its Karate heritage.Does that help? https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
bushido_man96 Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 I would pick Tong-Il. Its a powerful form and makes use of both slow and fast motions. But I wouldn't pick it just because of the physical aspect but more because what it represents philosophically. It is the last and 24th tul of the Chang Hon system and in simple terms represents the unification of Korea and peace across the peninsula which was one of Gen. Choi's dreams. Whereas for all the other dan grades (in ITF) you learn 3 tul per rank, Tong-Il is the only one learnt at 6th before you grade to 7th & become a Master so it represents mastery over the style and the whole cycle starting again. It being the 24th pattern also has special significance because Gen. Choi specifically used 24 tul to represent how, compared to eternity, we only have 24hrs to make our mark on the world.I think I may have seen Tong-Il performed once, and my instructor is learning it now. Since I had no experience with it myself, I couldn't really say.I do like the analogies of the meaning of the form, though. General Choi was quite philosophical, and I would be willing to bet that there aren't many coincidences about that form. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
DWx Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Its a nice form. You don't really get to see it a lot though because its only the more senior people who do it. Here's GM Choi Jung Hwa doing it but I've seen videos of better. "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius
moriniuk Posted September 16, 2008 Author Posted September 16, 2008 Brilliant. A headless man performing a Taekwondo form. https://www.bkkmuaythai.piczo.com
Dobbersky Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 In my teaching Style I would say that Jissen kata 1 and 2 would be the best kata that describe my style. "Challenge is a Dragon with a Gift in its mouth....Tame the Dragon and the Gift is Yours....." Noela Evans (author)
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