Wanna Learn Mhuay Thai Badly!! PLease Post begginning Techn.

[Throwdown0850]

Best ultra secret martial art technique: Train under a good instructor that teaches it.

2nd best ultra secret martial art technique: get some roots, get at least the equivalent of a 1st dan in something before cross training.

If you don't want to take my advice, you won't progress much, no lie.

When you answered the original post, I thought to myself that that's how I felt, myself. I noticed you have Jocky Gym Muay Thai in your MA background, which I'm not familiar with.

I also saw in your posting Ft. Bragg, and your profile says the military. I read an article in the NY Times about how all branches of the military have had boxing as a tradition, but now MMA is coming in. The article focused on the army.

Jockeygym is a famous camp that used to exist in Thailand but no longer does. It's known for making orthadox fighters fight in southpaw to confuse opponents. In the Army, we have modern army combatives which kind of has a MMA focus but I'd say more BJJ but also focuses on using other techniques against a opponent that has a knife, rifle, etc. It goes up to level 4 with 4 being the highest. For some people depending on their job it's required training and for others it's optional but everyone in the Army gets at least a small taste of it in basic/"boot camp" and possibly in their AIT(job training).

Crosstraining is very bad for a beginner if they're doing something like Karate and boxing...TKD and Muay Thai, and so on. However, if the instructor is teaching them both arts at the same time it can be done. Muangsurin camp in Thailand and some other Thai thaiboxing camps taught TKD and Muay Thai together(i.e. Master Toddy and Master Sken). If someone does something like boxing and wrestling or muay thai and bjj, it won't effect them as a beginner. If you were to do kempo, karate, tkd and than train muay thai at some other school and don't have any roots you're only doing yourself harm.

I came into Muay Thai, myself when I was already a shodan in shito and goju and temporarily "forgot" my karate as much as I could so I could learn the muay thai. I also trained in Muay thai for 3-5 hours 5-6 days a week for the first year and had two fights within my first year so I was somewhat committed more so than the person that trains 3 hours a week. Once I felt I was catching onto muay thai did I start to intergrate or combine my karate with it. I did this all my jr. year of highschool, too..and I'm 29 now.

I know I'm getting off the topic here...but once I was able to integrate muay thai and my more "classical" karate was I given a crash course in knockdown karate and literally given a shodan in a knockdown style of karate to fight in Enshin and kyokushin tournaments. It was very easy to make that transition for me coming from point fighting karate to muay thai and than to knockdown kumite. Real karate as I like to call it, is very similar to all styles of Karate, it's just how it's emphasized is what seperates it and makes it a different ryu/kai/kan.

Have fun in your training.

someone just gave you a black belt???...

[kansascityshuffle]

Best ultra secret martial art technique: Train under a good instructor that teaches it.

2nd best ultra secret martial art technique: get some roots, get at least the equivalent of a 1st dan in something before cross training.

If you don't want to take my advice, you won't progress much, no lie.

When you answered the original post, I thought to myself that that's how I felt, myself. I noticed you have Jocky Gym Muay Thai in your MA background, which I'm not familiar with.

I also saw in your posting Ft. Bragg, and your profile says the military. I read an article in the NY Times about how all branches of the military have had boxing as a tradition, but now MMA is coming in. The article focused on the army.

Jockeygym is a famous camp that used to exist in Thailand but no longer does. It's known for making orthadox fighters fight in southpaw to confuse opponents. In the Army, we have modern army combatives which kind of has a MMA focus but I'd say more BJJ but also focuses on using other techniques against a opponent that has a knife, rifle, etc. It goes up to level 4 with 4 being the highest. For some people depending on their job it's required training and for others it's optional but everyone in the Army gets at least a small taste of it in basic/"boot camp" and possibly in their AIT(job training).

Crosstraining is very bad for a beginner if they're doing something like Karate and boxing...TKD and Muay Thai, and so on. However, if the instructor is teaching them both arts at the same time it can be done. Muangsurin camp in Thailand and some other Thai thaiboxing camps taught TKD and Muay Thai together(i.e. Master Toddy and Master Sken). If someone does something like boxing and wrestling or muay thai and bjj, it won't effect them as a beginner. If you were to do kempo, karate, tkd and than train muay thai at some other school and don't have any roots you're only doing yourself harm.

I came into Muay Thai, myself when I was already a shodan in shito and goju and temporarily "forgot" my karate as much as I could so I could learn the muay thai. I also trained in Muay thai for 3-5 hours 5-6 days a week for the first year and had two fights within my first year so I was somewhat committed more so than the person that trains 3 hours a week. Once I felt I was catching onto muay thai did I start to intergrate or combine my karate with it. I did this all my jr. year of highschool, too..and I'm 29 now.

I know I'm getting off the topic here...but once I was able to integrate muay thai and my more "classical" karate was I given a crash course in knockdown karate and literally given a shodan in a knockdown style of karate to fight in Enshin and kyokushin tournaments. It was very easy to make that transition for me coming from point fighting karate to muay thai and than to knockdown kumite. Real karate as I like to call it, is very similar to all styles of Karate, it's just how it's emphasized is what seperates it and makes it a different ryu/kai/kan.

Have fun in your training.

someone just gave you a black belt???...

I over simplified..I trained with someone for a few months that won a Sabaki tournament a few years prior against a Japanese Enshin champion, and as far as I know is the only person to ever beat this person in any Sabaki tournament. I trained with this person to get ready for my knockdown karate debut who is a black belt in quite a few styles and instructor ranked in muay thai at a high level. After a few months of this training he presented me with a black belt in a style of knockdown karate but I was I myself already had a fairly decent background in shito and goju and had a few muay thai fights under my belt which I won. I was also outsparring him in knockdown kumite and was "expected" to win so a lot of pressure was put on me.

This isn't that uncommon of a practice, if you ask around, for someone with a background in a style that switches to another style they will be granted rank or their rank is recognized. Especially if they have something to bring to the table, meaning, can they win and represent that style well in competition?

I'm not going to point out names of styles and people I know first hand that have done this but it does happen. I also know of certain martial art company owners that are just given belt certificates for providing free uniforms, etc.

I know this thread has spread away from it's original purpose and I'm sorry but just wanting to clarify.

[Throwdown0850]

Best ultra secret martial art technique: Train under a good instructor that teaches it.

2nd best ultra secret martial art technique: get some roots, get at least the equivalent of a 1st dan in something before cross training.

If you don't want to take my advice, you won't progress much, no lie.

When you answered the original post, I thought to myself that that's how I felt, myself. I noticed you have Jocky Gym Muay Thai in your MA background, which I'm not familiar with.

I also saw in your posting Ft. Bragg, and your profile says the military. I read an article in the NY Times about how all branches of the military have had boxing as a tradition, but now MMA is coming in. The article focused on the army.

Jockeygym is a famous camp that used to exist in Thailand but no longer does. It's known for making orthadox fighters fight in southpaw to confuse opponents. In the Army, we have modern army combatives which kind of has a MMA focus but I'd say more BJJ but also focuses on using other techniques against a opponent that has a knife, rifle, etc. It goes up to level 4 with 4 being the highest. For some people depending on their job it's required training and for others it's optional but everyone in the Army gets at least a small taste of it in basic/"boot camp" and possibly in their AIT(job training).

Crosstraining is very bad for a beginner if they're doing something like Karate and boxing...TKD and Muay Thai, and so on. However, if the instructor is teaching them both arts at the same time it can be done. Muangsurin camp in Thailand and some other Thai thaiboxing camps taught TKD and Muay Thai together(i.e. Master Toddy and Master Sken). If someone does something like boxing and wrestling or muay thai and bjj, it won't effect them as a beginner. If you were to do kempo, karate, tkd and than train muay thai at some other school and don't have any roots you're only doing yourself harm.

I came into Muay Thai, myself when I was already a shodan in shito and goju and temporarily "forgot" my karate as much as I could so I could learn the muay thai. I also trained in Muay thai for 3-5 hours 5-6 days a week for the first year and had two fights within my first year so I was somewhat committed more so than the person that trains 3 hours a week. Once I felt I was catching onto muay thai did I start to intergrate or combine my karate with it. I did this all my jr. year of highschool, too..and I'm 29 now.

I know I'm getting off the topic here...but once I was able to integrate muay thai and my more "classical" karate was I given a crash course in knockdown karate and literally given a shodan in a knockdown style of karate to fight in Enshin and kyokushin tournaments. It was very easy to make that transition for me coming from point fighting karate to muay thai and than to knockdown kumite. Real karate as I like to call it, is very similar to all styles of Karate, it's just how it's emphasized is what seperates it and makes it a different ryu/kai/kan.

Have fun in your training.

someone just gave you a black belt???...

I over simplified..I trained with someone for a few months that won a Sabaki tournament a few years prior against a Japanese Enshin champion, and as far as I know is the only person to ever beat this person in any Sabaki tournament. I trained with this person to get ready for my knockdown karate debut who is a black belt in quite a few styles and instructor ranked in muay thai at a high level. After a few months of this training he presented me with a black belt in a style of knockdown karate but I was I myself already had a fairly decent background in shito and goju and had a few muay thai fights under my belt which I won. I was also outsparring him in knockdown kumite and was "expected" to win so a lot of pressure was put on me.

This isn't that uncommon of a practice, if you ask around, for someone with a background in a style that switches to another style they will be granted rank or their rank is recognized. Especially if they have something to bring to the table, meaning, can they win and represent that style well in competition?

I'm not going to point out names of styles and people I know first hand that have done this but it does happen. I also know of certain martial art company owners that are just given belt certificates for providing free uniforms, etc.

I know this thread has spread away from it's original purpose and I'm sorry but just wanting to clarify.

I practice Enshin too!! I would love to go to the Sabaki Challenge!

[marksmarkou]

The first technqiue to learn in Mauy Thai is to condition your body. start running and lifting weights if not before, which your diet. Cut the junk food and sweets. Drink lots of water. Do this for about two months so as to make your body ready then go join a Thai gym. Regularly attending a Thai gym and learning from a qualified instructor is the only way you shall learn Mauy Thai.