Sin Style Posted June 21, 2002 Posted June 21, 2002 im now starting up martial arts and im looking at place's in my area ive found one that teaches shotokan in the army my mate reckons this is different from normal shotokan karate, which is better ? also another place that teaches taishindo karate is this any good i aint read everything about it
G95champ Posted June 21, 2002 Posted June 21, 2002 I would be shocked if Shotokan was taught in the US Army. Becasue its focus on low stances is not exactly combat ready. Most Shotokan students don't really become good fighters till later in their traing. The army wants the the best bang from the buck. ( BTW Im a Shotokan person myself.) I would expect the army to do more what the police do a mix of Akkido and Judo. Funakoshi did teach the army in Japan before WWII so that may be where that comes from. Because of the low stacnces, work on kata, and lack of weapons Shotokan is not want I would want to train the army in. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
rabid hamster Posted June 22, 2002 Posted June 22, 2002 I think your learn BJJ in the army... Someone told me that once. It is only with the heart that one can see clearly, for the most essential things are invisible to the eye.
G95champ Posted June 22, 2002 Posted June 22, 2002 I would really doubt that and here is why. BJJ is groud combat. If you are in a battle as soon as you go the ground you become open for another person to stab you in the back or shoot you. Going to the gound is great if its one on one but when mass numbers of people are involved its the last thing you want. Akkido and Hipkido give you a lot of quick throws and breaks. Along with some good stick and knife defense. Judo gives you enough throws and take downs to work on the battlefield. Again Im guessing some combo of Akido and Judo with a touch of Hipikido is what we use. Im not saying they don't use soem BJJ moves but Ill bet money its not BJJ..... (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
hobbitbob Posted June 22, 2002 Posted June 22, 2002 Granted, its been a while since Basic Training (1991.), but we did one day of hand to hand combat. Hip throws, punches, and palm heel strikes. Two days of Bayinet (butt stroke, slash, block), and, my favourite, a morning of pugil stick (otherwise known as the "Q-Tip"). Pugil stick was quite easy to use Bo techniques with, although I was pulled from my only match for sweeping my opponent's legs out from under him. Bad soldier, bad bad! I guess teh Marines use a form of pseudo-jujutsu (or so the Discovery channel tells me ). There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
Sin Style Posted June 22, 2002 Author Posted June 22, 2002 i know some martial arts are based on certain army training krav maga - israeli ROSS and SAMBO - russian san shou - chinese tukong moosli - south korean also ive read that US army's is based on ju-jitsu
Eye of the Tiger Posted June 22, 2002 Posted June 22, 2002 I'm guessing your refering to the Brit Army since your from England. I think they are just taught silent killing techniques, and the special forces do something called jap slapping or something, where you do anything.
Sin Style Posted June 22, 2002 Author Posted June 22, 2002 well what i meant at the start was is shotokan in the army a style as that what the guy said he teaches not shotokan karate, shotokan in the army i was wondering what is different, i guess i could have wrote it better. when i was training to be in the marine's the marine used to just throw us about and joint lock our arms and stuff. i dont the Brittish army does a martial arts as at the start he said "anyone do martial arts ?" whoever put the hand up became a test dummy all day
Sin Style Posted June 22, 2002 Author Posted June 22, 2002 maybe special forces like the SAS should learn ninjutsu/ninpo
Eye of the Tiger Posted June 22, 2002 Posted June 22, 2002 The army teaches very basic stuff with your hands. Elite and special forces dont do a specific martial art its just a selction of holds, locks and throws to either keep someone under control or to kill them. Whoever told you about shotokan army is just speaking a load of bull**** try out http://www.24fightingchickens.com to find out about shotokan. Taishindo: http://www.taishindo.co.uk _________________ Kickboxer and Wado Ryu Karate SAMA Organisation Former black belt ECKA Karate 14 years old [ This Message was edited by: Eye of the Tiger on 2002-06-22 08:04 ]
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