Zanshin Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Interesting. I would interperate it to mean total commintment to attack. Leaving all behind to damage the opponant. I'll have to bounce this one off a friend of mine who is fluent and see what he has to say.一 (Ichi) = One拳 (Ken) = Fist必 (Hitsu) = Certain殺 (Satsu) = KillSpoken "Ikken Hissatsu"There you go tallgeese my man. "The difference between the possible and impossible is one's will""saya no uchi de katsu" - Victory in the scabbbard of the sword. (One must obtain victory while the sword is undrawn).https://www.art-of-budo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallgeese Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 There you go, lookin out for me as always Z. Thanks.I still have trouble buying into the one punch one kill that this seems to put forth. I've always been a combination guy myself. Still, it's good to know what they're acually talking about. http://alphajiujitsu.com/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJhRVuwbm__LwXPvFMReMww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanshin Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 There you go, lookin out for me as always Z. Thanks.I still have trouble buying into the one punch one kill that this seems to put forth. I've always been a combination guy myself. Still, it's good to know what they're acually talking about.No worries.Actually I agree with you and I have always looked at this expression as more of an idiom.I think a previous poster mentioned that it was probably a hangover from Kenjutsu, which I feel is a valid explanation.I have also heard that Kiai (shout) points in kata are supposed to be a reflection of " Ikken Hissatsu". Sort of makes sense to me if you take the term Kiai literally (harmonising of ones energy/will into the ultimate strike).May be as a final part of a combination. "The difference between the possible and impossible is one's will""saya no uchi de katsu" - Victory in the scabbbard of the sword. (One must obtain victory while the sword is undrawn).https://www.art-of-budo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted September 20, 2008 Author Share Posted September 20, 2008 We have a thing in ITF TKD of only wrapping the belt around the waist once (rather than the double wrap a lot of other styles use) to signify this philosophy. We also say "one technique, one defeat" rather than "one blow, one kill" so ending an altercation doesn't necessarily have to be fatal. For me it means you have to constantly strive to improve your techniques so that each and every single block, strike or kick gets closer to being able to bring about that one technique defeat. Every technique needs to be honed so that it has maximum power and is delivered with accuracy and you shouldn't ever be satisfied that you've got the most out of that one technique because it can always be improved. That's why I see the maxim as something to work towards but something that is not always attainable in an altercation.Very nice. Its that philosophy that makes you continue to hone even your basic techniques, to get closer and closer to being able to attain a perhps unattainable goal.I didn't know that ITF had single wrap belts, either. All my TKD black belts have been double wrapped. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWx Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 We have a thing in ITF TKD of only wrapping the belt around the waist once (rather than the double wrap a lot of other styles use) to signify this philosophy. We also say "one technique, one defeat" rather than "one blow, one kill" so ending an altercation doesn't necessarily have to be fatal. For me it means you have to constantly strive to improve your techniques so that each and every single block, strike or kick gets closer to being able to bring about that one technique defeat. Every technique needs to be honed so that it has maximum power and is delivered with accuracy and you shouldn't ever be satisfied that you've got the most out of that one technique because it can always be improved. That's why I see the maxim as something to work towards but something that is not always attainable in an altercation.Very nice. Its that philosophy that makes you continue to hone even your basic techniques, to get closer and closer to being able to attain a perhps unattainable goal.I didn't know that ITF had single wrap belts, either. All my TKD black belts have been double wrapped.Yeah all the belts are single wrap. Means that they are slightly thicker in most cases because they only have to go around once. "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bullock Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I don't really think in terms of "killing" the person per se; however I seek to destroy the persons spirit and will to fight.Every blow should be to end the confrontation...there is no setting up the final shot. James Bullockhttps://www.combativesciences.comhttp://www.myspace.com/warrior_athleticshttp://combative-sciences.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesteph Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Every blow should be to end the confrontation...there is no setting up the final shot.This is what I think myself, James. I don't actually see the need to kill the opponent; the idea is to neutralize him, meaning anything from that he's hurt and backs off to knocking him out. ~ JoeVee Arnis Jitsu/JuJitsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger1962 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I always interpreted it as a death touch technique.That's what I thought also. "Never argue with an idiot because they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." ~ Dilbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 I don't really think in terms of "killing" the person per se; however I seek to destroy the persons spirit and will to fight.Every blow should be to end the confrontation...there is no setting up the final shot.I agree. But be ready to throw another final blow if you have to. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bullock Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 My fault...I meant to say that your intention should be to end the confrontation with every blow regardless how many you throw.Strike until there is nothing left to hit but air.....in other words...he is no longer conscious or a threat.. James Bullockhttps://www.combativesciences.comhttp://www.myspace.com/warrior_athleticshttp://combative-sciences.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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