What happened to the side snap kick?

[bushido_man96]

I have noticed from my experience in TKD, and in reading various sources on various Karate styles, that the side snap kick didn't really seem to make it into the TKD curriculum. Is this the same for TSD? Does anyone know why this might be? I thought that it was kind of curious.

[Sam]

I'm assuming you're talking about WTF? As far as I'm aware (at least for the Dojangs I have trained at) the side snap kick is still part of the ITF "curriculum" for TKD.

[bushido_man96]

Well, I have never seen it or done it. I do the ITF forms system, but not with sine wave or anything like that.

As for the side snap kick, in Karate, you see marked difference in the trajectory and delivery between the side snap and thrust kicks. In TKD, I have not seen this difference. I don't even really notice it in Gen. Choi's encyclopedia. Perhaps I just haven't experienced enough ITF to know better, though.

[DWx]

If what you call a side snap kick is the same as what I call a side piercing kick, then I'd say in ITF it is probably the most prevelant of the possible side kicks. Yop cha' jirugi is use extensively in most sparring and as for the forms its in like every form I've learnt so far from Won-Hyo upwards. I'm not really all that familiar with the encyclopedia as I have mostly dipped into it more than read it, but I would have thought that in the 15 volumes set Gen. Choi may have gone into a bit more detail?

[NewEnglands_KyoSa]

From what i've heard a side snap kick is like a side blade kick, using the blade of the foot. As for TSD, we do not use the side snap, we just have a regular side kick, hitting with the heel. I'd be interested to here why it's not in the curriculum.

[bushido_man96]

From what i've heard a side snap kick is like a side blade kick, using the blade of the foot. As for TSD, we do not use the side snap, we just have a regular side kick, hitting with the heel. I'd be interested to here why it's not in the curriculum.

Yes, this is basically what we do. I don't use the blade of the foot, but I don't think it changes the technique enough if you do.

What I do, DWx, is what I would call the side piercing kick, but I just call it the side kick (or side thrust kick). The only time I would see one that is a 'snap' kick is one that is not thrown with as much committment, and is pulled back faster. Here, the difference would be in the level of penetration of the technique.

Does that make any sense? I hope I am not being too confusing, or running around in circles.

[NewEnglands_KyoSa]

Yes. In my opinion trying to use the blade is harder for me, perhaps because i've been using my heel all my life. But i'd be interested to see what kind of impact and difference it makes to use eiter technique, blade or heel.

[Rateh]

Yes. In my opinion trying to use the blade is harder for me, perhaps because i've been using my heel all my life. But i'd be interested to see what kind of impact and difference it makes to use eiter technique, blade or heel.

Oddly enough I tend to use the blade on my right foot and my heel on my left. Because originally I came from a style that used the heel. I changed styles and was able to get my right foot to do the blade, but before I got my left I changed again, and my new style didn't care which I used so now I do half and half and it isn't changing anytime soon. Personally I do think the heel would be more effective, if only because it is a harder target. Also does anyone else get that "big toe sticking up" thing when they kick with the blade?

[bushido_man96]

Yeah, I don't like the big toe sticking up, which is part of the reason that I don't kick with the blade.

[NewEnglands_KyoSa]

I am not sure i've heard of or been taught the 'toe sticking up' concept...anyone wish to elaborate for me?