BlackTiger Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 the reason people shout is to " let the air out" of their body - holding your breathe is dangerous. The Sensei or Sifu knows your letting it out if you shout. In Kung Fu we don't shout, we exhale loudly enough so our Sifu can head it, breathing exercises are one of the top piorities in Kung Fu. Executing a srike while exhaling in very powerful, this developes and understand inner strength,
The Shaolin Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 A specific example of a Chinese shout could be perhaps when Wong Kiew Kit describes the "Her-it" noise that accompanies many tiger style exercises.
Traymond Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 The way you make the kiai sound matters not. But it can become annoying if its not something serious...for instance I teach a girl that kiais "Suzuki", "Mistubishi" and "Toyota"...I prefer Kiai's Such as "EEEEEEEE", "Iai", "yah", "Ha", Yo", and "Kya".In Kendo, (The style I was in), the only kiai was where you were striking at, "men", "do", "ashi", "Kote", Skee". To fear death is to limit life - Xin Sarith Azuma Phan Wuku
Patcherson Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 I don't say a word my sensai taught me that your kiah comes from just under your belly button when you punch or strike you exhale from it and the sound comes naturallyi find i make a different sound for every move
The BB of C Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 I don't know if anyone has already seen this one but I think it makes a lot of sense.
bushido_man96 Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 That was a nice study. I wonder if he didn't exhale at all on the second break, though. Also, on the slow motion look of the first break, I didn't see the bottom brick break there, either, but it may have been broken with the final collapse of rubble.But, the numbers don't lie, and missing out on around 500 extra lbs of force would make a difference. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
RichardZ Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 What I find important about the kiai, kihap, or "spirit yell" is that it should come from the abdomen, and not from the throat. You should expel the air from your body in a forceful manner.I thought that the Chinese styles didn't put as much emphasis on shouting as other styles tended to. I could be wrong, though.You are correct about the way to shout.A few Chinese styles I was in, did have a shout, but it was unlike others, per Karate. The concept and application were the same as you described.
duanda Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 There have been alot of replies, but I will offer my 2 cents nonetheless.In the Chinese styles I have practised there are generally 2 different types of noises we would make;HIN; like biting somethingand HAH like spitting something outThey come from the diaphgram not the lungs like others have mentioned. If someone were to press against your diaphgram with two fingers say, each sound will move our diaphgram differentlyAnother is a sharp E! or Yi! and the feeling is compressed and imploding.Different sounds do suit different movements better. Better to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener at war.
Cable Dog Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 My kiai is rather unorthodox as it isn't a word so much as a "bark" maybe? I get a good breath before, and often during kumite I will kiai before a specific move, and condition the person to that. When I decide to make a final move, I will kiai and use an entirely different move which generally speaking throws them off. I have the loudest kiai in my class (most are girls to be fair **not saying they can't be loud**) however it is more like a gutteral yell than a word. Faith without deeds, is worthless~Namaste~
Tzu-Logic Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 Any of you guys watch boxing matches on TV? Boxers are constantly letting out sharp hisses of air when they attack.... Not so much of a yell as a , "TSSST" or something... anyone who watches boxing will know what i am talking about....anyway i find that to be very intimidating during sparring and so i almost always do that especially with punching combos...I also find that exhaling during a block or when taking a hit really helps lesten the impact you feel from the blow (unless you happen to be taking a gut shot from a spinning back kick ) and I try to incorporate that into as much training as i can....When doing forms i generally let out a decent HAI!!!!! at the right places... that's my little thought on kiahs.... A warrior may choose pacifism, all others are condemned to it."Under the sky, under the heavens, there is but one family." -Bruce Lee
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