Systems of Jujutsu

[Johnlogic121]

I am given to understand that there are actually hundreds of styles of jujutsu. Brazilian jujutsu orginated in Japan under another name but was expanded and popularized by the Gracie family. Japense jujutsu has been around for hundreds of years. Essentially, jujutsu training methods practice specific training techniques in short two-man forms that involve a certain attack or attacking sequence and an effective counter as a defense. The degree of improvization used by jujutsu styles varies, as some styles try to have a prearranged technique for everything and other styles try to teach general principles that can be broken down and linked together. American Kempo resembles this definition of a jujutsu system, as does Bujinkan Ninjutsu. Karate training, conversely, tends to involve solo repetition of basic strikes and blocks and forms and practice with a partner is usually secondary. Chuck Norris, however, trained in a Tang Soo Do school that have people working together in blocking drills for 80% of the total class time. My question is simple. How many styles of jujutsu can the forum name? Can everybody give a little background detail about each one? People respond to this fourm from all over the world, so knowing what country the jujutsu style comes from would be intersting as well. Thanks in advance for your time. -JL

[bushido_man96]

Actually, BJJ came from Judo, and then became BJJ as the Gracies changed the focus of their training.

[ps1]

Actually, BJJ came from Judo, and then became BJJ as the Gracies changed the focus of their training.

Depending on whose history you read...Count Koma actually changed the name back to Jiujitsu whe he began taking on challenge matches thoughout the world. So, while he was a high ranking Judo practitioner...he changed the focus of the art first...the Gracies took the reigns from there and continued the tradition. That's why it's spelled Jiujitsu. They kept the spelling Koma had provided.

[bushido_man96]

Right, I had read about the Koma references. Basically, it was Judo curriculum, but a different focus.

[Treebranch]

I thought BJJ came from Kodokan Judo?

[ps1]

I thought BJJ came from Kodokan Judo?

It did in so much as Koma had rank in Kodokan Judo. However, you have to realize that the Kodokan Judo of that time was far different from what we see now. It still taught strikes and more ground play involved. In addition, because he was Japanese, when Koma changed the focus from being a Do system (Do=referring to a way or path to self enlightenment) to one of combat; he changed the name to Ju (Jiu) Jitsu (Jitsu= referring to an art or a complete method; in this case of combat). The reason for the spelling is that Japanese is phonetic. That is, because their language is spelled with Kanji (symbols) it doesn't matter how you spell it with letters as long as you pronounce it correctly.

[Treebranch]

I thought BJJ came from Kodokan Judo?

It did in so much as Koma had rank in Kodokan Judo. However, you have to realize that the Kodokan Judo of that time was far different from what we see now. It still taught strikes and more ground play involved. In addition, because he was Japanese, when Koma changed the focus from being a Do system (Do=referring to a way or path to self enlightenment) to one of combat; he changed the name to Ju (Jiu) Jitsu (Jitsu= referring to an art or a complete method; in this case of combat). The reason for the spelling is that Japanese is phonetic. That is, because their language is spelled with Kanji (symbols) it doesn't matter how you spell it with letters as long as you pronounce it correctly.

Which Japanese Jujutsu do you do? By the way, is this what you were talking about in reference to Judo?

[ps1]

Daito Ryu Aiki Jujitsu and Yagu Ryu Bujitsu.

Great link, by the way.

[Treebranch]

Very cool!

[joesteph]

Which Japanese Jujutsu do you do? By the way, is this what you were talking about in reference to Judo?

An excellent video; a true variety presented. It dispells what many who aren't really familiar with Judo think it is, that you throw someone over your shoulder or over your hip and that's that.

Throwing and landing on top of your opponent; landing so that you can perform a joint lock; using clothing to control your opponent; even showing that sometimes you've got to struggle to get your foot, say, behind his knee to make the throw . . .

Really a good one.