Hidden Punch, Hidden Kick

[Johnlogic121]

In certain forms and katas, a certain application or bunkai can be referred to as a 'hidden' move. There are two techniques however that I have heard of in karate that are explicitly referred to as the hidden punch and hidden kick respectively since they took a long time to be taught outside of Japan. The hidden punch goes like this. When someone punches towards your head with the right, you dodge left and use your righ arm to punch into his body and ribs with your fist. The angle of your right arm is such that his arm obscures his sight of your punching arm and your punching arm tends to arrive just when he is retracting his right arm anyway, so he cannot block. The hidden kick goes like this. You advance to close range in a side stance and then rise on your forward leg so that you can kick forwards into the nearest knee with the rear heel. Sometimes the inner sole of the foot is used against the nearest knee. The back leg is seldom seen and seldom expected of being the kicking leg at close range. Does anybody else know of any other hidden techniques they can share, even if they come from katas? Thanks, johnlogic121.

[The BB of C]

I suppose Wing Chun does something similar. They use their speed to punch more than two spots at one time rapidly. I would think that would create a hidden punch and/or hidden kick effect.

[NewEnglands_KyoSa]

i have heard of the punch, but not the kick. i punch makes sense, and is almost a 'basic' concept, but it is very smart and of crucial philosophy for fighting.

[yingampyang]

I think that there will be hiden techniques in every style. But this does not mean they will all be effective.