Treebranch Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I've rolled with wrestlers and they are very quick and powerful. I still was able to have control and did just fine. There are ways my friends. True Jujutsu is like fighting an empty jacket. If you can master not resisting, a whole new world will open up for you. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 So do get back to the point of Wrestling and BJJ. I'd say BJJ is more useful to most fighters and average people than Wrestling would be. There's always going to be someone quicker and stronger. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow_Warrior Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 only person left for him to fight is Fedor Emelienenko, and that fight won't happenI would sell my house to see that fight I've rolled with wrestlers and they are very quick and powerful. I still was able to have control and did just fine. There are ways my friends. True Jujutsu is like fighting an empty jacket. If you can master not resisting, a whole new world will open up for you.sure ! I have rolled with wrestlers and have wrestled at HS , but I am talking about this guy , a world class wrestler , a guy who represented his country in many international events , and was replacement for the top guy in the olympics.The guy has a very tight side control , and it is very difficult to move...you can play ´´ no resist game ´´ when you are on your guard al least...but if you are on the bottom of a side control...you better do something.Wrestling is offensive , all the way. You get punished if you dont engage the fight , or avoid the opponent. ´´ The evil may win a round , but not the fight ´´ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Have you been doing BJJ, Submission Grappling? I'd highly recommend it. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittbullJudoka Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 The question really doesn't have a set answer. I can grapple offensively and defensivly. It just depends on the opponent. Situation to situation your game plan will change. Grappling either way done properly will lead to the baiting of your opponent. Thus baiting is what you are doing umltimately to make you adversery make a mistake to were you can pin or submit them. To win in your respective sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 The question really doesn't have a set answer. I can grapple offensively and defensivly. It just depends on the opponent. Situation to situation your game plan will change. Grappling either way done properly will lead to the baiting of your opponent. Thus baiting is what you are doing umltimately to make you adversery make a mistake to were you can pin or submit them. To win in your respective sport.Very nicely put! "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yingampyang Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Yes that was a good way to explain it. I think that there is no 1 style , and that to truly become a great martial artist and person you must take information from where ever you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 The question really doesn't have a set answer. I can grapple offensively and defensivly. It just depends on the opponent. Situation to situation your game plan will change. Grappling either way done properly will lead to the baiting of your opponent. Thus baiting is what you are doing umltimately to make you adversery make a mistake to were you can pin or submit them. To win in your respective sport.I guess that sums it up! Thanks. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittbullJudoka Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I guess that sums it up! Thanks. Sorry guys. This was a great thread I didn't mean to kill it. I just had to get back to the original topic as Treebranch suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 Since you bring up the original topic, let me expand upon my initial assumptions.When I was in Wrestling (yeah, for that one whole year...) and when I watch Wrestling matches, they usually seem much more fast paced, with the two competitors going after each other hard. I guess that perhaps this viewpoint I have comes from what I like to call the "pin mentality." I do know that you can win off of points, but you have to be offensive to get the most number of points; i.e., back points, takedowns, etc. Reversals are worth 2, and escapes are only worth 1. You can get up to 3 back points at a time, and takedowns are worth 2. You get more points for going on the attack. This is why Wrestling seems more aggresive, or offensive, to me.Now, when I have watched BJJ, argueable in MMA matches most of the time, when a fighter goes to the ground, they seem to be more patient (usually) when it comes to setting up. They don't have to worry about being pinned while on their back, and can use the various guard positions to try to stall out the opponent, and then work from the bottom as well. Therefore, it appears to me that BJJ seems to be a bit more defensive.This is how the two sports appear to me. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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