Aces Red Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Lets say someone were to grab your wrist with a cross grab. You then place your heart 7 onto theirs and defend yourself with a wrist lock, locking your opponents wrist. Why is it whenever you look at your opponents chest, take a deep slow breath, or raise one of your legs from the ground it hurts more then if you had done the opposite, that being just going for a normal wrist lock without the speical add ons? People are bound not by limitation, but rather by the barriers of their imagination~~ Paul White-- 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I don't quite understand what you mean here. I don't think I have ever experienced anything like that. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marie curie Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I agree, could you try that explanation again? You suck-train harder.......................Don't block with your faceA good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving. -Lao Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 If I'm understanding correctly, looking at the chest has nothing to do with it other than to be able to see the entrie person as much as possible, but lifting the leg (and leaning into the technique) is probably making your weight go forward into the tuitte (lock) technique...forcing your opponents hand forward a bit more, thus causing more pain. No chi involved here...just body mechanics. If you don't want to stand behind our troops, please..feel free to stand in front of them.Student since January 1975---4th Dan, retired due to non-martial arts related injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marie curie Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Re-reading, I agree with Montana. This definitely sounds like a case of body mechanics. Also, remember that the flexibility of your shoulder and relative height can vary how the technique works between people. You suck-train harder.......................Don't block with your faceA good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving. -Lao Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Very true, Marie. Leverage is an important aspect that comes into play with joint locking.I agree with Montana as well. Not so much ki or chi, but very much about body mechanics. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dete Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 if you get two people with identical body types, similar life styles & environment, have them lift weights, if one person just lifts while the other lifts but also actively visualizes himself getting bigger, stronger, more massive, they say it makes a significant difference. If your trying to activate a pressure point, I believe you need to visualize inorder to guide your intent (ki)from a more western point of view we can say something like, punch through, or imagine your fist is going to destroy their skeletal structure. http://www.freewebs.com/knife4street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I imagine visualization would help the fact. However, in the heat of the moment, I think it would be tougher to accomplish. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I imagine visualization would help the fact. However, in the heat of the moment, I think it would be tougher to accomplish.Agreed...not to mention the fact that while you're standing there visualizing your technique, your opponent is trying their best to get at you. Not a good idea I think. If you don't want to stand behind our troops, please..feel free to stand in front of them.Student since January 1975---4th Dan, retired due to non-martial arts related injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dete Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 if you punch a guy in the face and visualize his head getting smashed into oblivion as you do it, it shouldn't be too difficult to do. http://www.freewebs.com/knife4street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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