street use: hapkido v.s muay thai

[WU TANG CLAN]

cant say which is best as ive never seen Hapkido but on a self defence point like inyctrotter say's Muay Thai is a fighting art,What u want to think about when it comes to street self defence is while you've got someone in a lock what you gonna do with the his mates?? 9 times out of 10 when you need to use self defence theres not just 1 attacking you "scum dont work alone".If your lucky and theres only 1 then locks are fine.

 

Thats just my opinion but im sure somebody will disagree

 

(6 years working as a doorman you get to see what works and what doesnt)[/quo

 

Hapkioist train to fight against Knives,Bats,Multiple attackers,guns also.

 

We use kicks to the shins,hands, belly,ribs,chest ,legs,inner thighs,shoulders etc; Also punches,neck chops,foot sweeps that will send a much larger man airborne whether performed from the stand up position or while laying on our backs:i.e. same result.

 

The same goes for our throws : Over the back or hips,Joint locks from the stand up position or sitting down & being attacked while relaxing on a picnic blanket. Also theres a good amount of ground fighting techniqes:

 

Same thing from the standup position or in a chair or on the ground.

 

And of course theres weapons training on how use them & defend against them.

 

Hapkido is straight up Korean street fighting that will work on any street on the planet... Now if you get caught slipping then you lose it happens to anyone who's human.

 

You win some you lose some.

 

Peace

[Treebranch]

Shabz said:

What u want to think about when it comes to street self defence is while you've got someone in a lock what you gonna do with the his mates?? 9 times out of 10 when you need to use self defence theres not just 1 attacking you "scum dont work alone".If your lucky and theres only 1 then locks are fine.

 

Thats just my opinion but im sure somebody will disagree

 

(6 years working as a doorman you get to see what works and what doesnt)

 

If you can get a good lock on one guy and his buddies are around and want to attack you, you can use the guy as a shield in a way. Or if you know how to throw him from a lock you can throw him in front of his buddies and run like hell. I think it's better than trying to punch your way through 5 guys. Also Muy Thai is all about beating the crap out of someone. It doesn't give you options like restraining someone, for example what if your good friend has had one too many and takes a swing at you. It would be beneficial to be able to control him with out destroying him. I think over all Hapkido is a more complete MA that would be better for the streets unpredictable nature.

[SupaNinjaz]

Treebranch wrote:

 

"Also Muy Thai is all about beating the crap out of someone. It doesn't give you options like restraining someone, for example what if your good friend has had one too many and takes a swing at you. It would be beneficial to be able to control him with out destroying him."

 

That is the most illogical example I have read, I'm 100% positive his buddy isn't going to clinch and start driving knees into his friends face because his drunk. I train in Kali and if I use your example that would mean I would pull my knife out and start cutting my friend up. Sorry bro, your example holds no weight!

[Shorin Ryuu]

Just a comment that doesn't really advocate either but addresses an issue that comes up. I've seen that if you really beat up one guy in a group, a lot of times, the other guys will turn tail or sorta back off if you leave a good impression. Of course, this may also make them really angry and want to beat you up even more...

[Treebranch]

I'm so sorry my example was so illogical SupaNinjaz. Your approval means so much to me. So I exaggerated a little. Hapkido is a more complete MA than Muy Thai, does that hold some weight for you?, it makes me so happy to please you .

 

Anyway where's your comment on the subject at hand? You seem too preoccupied with what I said. INTERESTING.

[SupaNinjaz]

Treebranch wrote:

I'm so sorry my example was so illogical SupaNinjaz

 

It's ok!!!

Your approval means so much to me.

 

I bet it does cause if it didn't then you won't of commented, regardless if your sarcastic or not!

Hapkido is a more complete MA than Muy Thai, does that hold some weight for you

 

Sorry that holds no weight either, you made a comment without fact, proof, or any reasoning.

Anyway where's your comment on the subject at hand? You seem too preoccupied with what I said. INTERESTING.

 

Well if you want my comment on the subject then I'll give it. Muay Thai will not fully prepare you for the streets, reason being is the non-existence of offensive/defensive weapons training, ground grappling and multiply opponents. Yet the majority of Muay Thai fighters have fight experience on their side, the ability to take a hit or multiply hits, also the ability to fight hurt, tired or in pain. They also understand how to cope under stress in a fight with the shaky legs and butterfly feeling in their stomachs these are all very important factors in a street fight. Now Hapkido is well rounded with many tools, ground grappling, striking, weapons defensive and multiply opponents training which is very important to know in a street fight, but this is all useless if you are unable to take a hit and stand your own ground in pain. Overall the best choice is to cross train!!!

[Treebranch]

Very well said SupaNinjaz, I totally agree with you. Do you mean cross train in multiple MA's or do mean if Hapkido employed the training methods of say Muy Thai, sparring full contact as part of their training? I think it is very important to be able to function under stress or after your body has just dumped adrenaline through your system. I also think people should get used to practicing techniques at full speed, or at least the one's that are able to be performed at full speed with proper gear of course. Didn't mean to sound so sarcastic the first time, I just didn't think the word ignorant was very nice. Also I don't assume everyone that studies Muy Thai or MMA is necessarily a competitive fighter. The conclusion which could be drawn from your comment is that the Hapkido practitionar who cross trains will be more effective in a streetfight do to Hapkido being a more well rounded MA. All things being equal of course.