Rainbow_Warrior Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 What moves could be used easily against some one who does not grapple to finish it fast?Takedowns : double leg , single leg...clinching , locking his leg and push ?on the ground : frontal mataleon ? armbars ? kimura ? ´´ The evil may win a round , but not the fight ´´
ps1 Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 For people that have no grappling experience (including wrestling) I can usually do anything I want. Usually a sit-over sweep to the mount (they usually turn their back) and I get em with rear naked choke.Wrestlers don't sweep quite as easily. Usually I submit them from guard with armbar or triangle. Often they give up their back and I get the rear naked choke.So just about any takedown standingArmbar, Triangle, Guillotine Kimura, sit over sweep, scissor sweep and so on.... "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."
bushido_man96 Posted November 4, 2007 Posted November 4, 2007 This is coming from my personal experience, but if it were me, fighting me, I would just take me down and attempt to mount the beatdown. I don't ground fight well, and a simple takedown can take away a good striker's abilities. Once you take them down, and can maintain some form of control over them, that should be a huge advantage to you. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
kenpo4life Posted November 4, 2007 Posted November 4, 2007 High clinch to hip throw. On concrete that will incapacitate most folks. If my survival means your total destruction, then so be it.
WolverineGuy Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 I think that the double and single leg takedowns are probably easiest to pull off...then just pass the guard, or mount if you landed in side control. Remember with the double leg and single leg that you need to keep running through your opponent...natural instinct to defend is to sprawl. If you do that, you should be golden, since non grapplers have a hard time defending against grappling attacks. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
pittbullJudoka Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 If they have no knowledge of ground work take this time to use stuff that you don't normally get to use. omoplata, gogoplata, ect. It's your chosing if they don't grapple.
NightOwl Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 Double, single, maybe osoto gari or another throw for the take down. For submissions a kimura or armbar would suffice I think. RNC also get the job done since usually if you have the experience once you get their back they are done. Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.~Theodore Roosevelt
MMA_Jim Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 By definition just about every basic move you're going to attempt against a non grappler is going to work, simply due to the fact that said person doesnt even have the knowledge to defend whichever particular technique you're attempting.
bushido_man96 Posted December 23, 2007 Posted December 23, 2007 If you are skilled at takedowns, then perhaps feining like you are "puffing up" and stand tall, then drop fast to takedown, that can throw them off, because they will most likely "puff up" with you, making themselves taller and more vulnerable to the takedown. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
billydail Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 arm bars , and head locks are allways good
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