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[Rateh]

I agree that teaching DEFINITLY should be taught. I wasn't taught and I feel so bad for the first year of students that I had.

it's so wrong for an instructor to put someone in charge of a group or class without teaching them HOW to lead that group or class. .

Rateh, I like what this poster said about that. They said that they feel bad for the students. It's the students that suffer.

Let's say that you as a kyu rank do understand the technique, what about the feedback. What about giving feedback to student in a effective matter. what about coaching a student thru their goals. what about identifying a students goals and tailoring your feedback to fit their wants and desires. Understanding technique is only half the battle.

and I'll just repeat myself here.

You do not learn how to teach by being a student. IE getting a black belt. Many of you have gone to school, at least high school, if not college too. If you graduate from high school, does that qualify you to be a high school teacher? No, it certainly does not. And...... teaching, or the act of running a class does not qualify you either.

Putting anyone in charge of the class besides a chief instructor, even for white belts is a disservice to the students and not the best choice for the instructor. as a customer of a karate club, students should demand more for their money than having a 7th kyu teach them their 10kyu techniques. I wouldn't let a 4th grader be in charge of my sons kindergarten class, and neither would you.

And if any of you reading this post are in a club where this type of training is done I would seriously consider another place to train.

I think we are on the same and different page. We both agree that teaching is a learned skill. However I think an advanced kyu rank is perfectly capable of learning the skill of teaching. I was a first kyu when I ran the beginner class. The fault wasn't being a first kyu, the fault was not being trained to instruct. If I HAD been trained to instruct, then imho there would be nothing at all wrong with a first kyu running a class if they understood the details of the technique and could teach the students appropriately.

[Sensei Rick]

Yes, we are in much agreement, which leads me to believe you're very bright.

But as important as technique is, communication is much more part of the learning process that many MA instructors are willing to admit. Mc DOJO's understand this, and that's why there clubs are huge and they make tons of money. They are business people first. Learn the communication skill's of the Mc DOJO instructor and combine it with your great skills and you can be an awesome instructor with a big club and lot's of cash too.

Anyway, we got way off topic here, but it was fun.

[Rateh]

Yes, we are in much agreement, which leads me to believe you're very bright.

But as important as technique is, communication is much more part of the learning process that many MA instructors are willing to admit. Mc DOJO's understand this, and that's why there clubs are huge and they make tons of money. They are business people first. Learn the communication skill's of the Mc DOJO instructor and combine it with your great skills and you can be an awesome instructor with a big club and lot's of cash too.

Anyway, we got way off topic here, but it was fun.

yes it was, and I agree with your assessment

[a_ninja]

well in our shotokan we take test up to the ninth dan, but to get to the tenth dan all the other black belts must agree that u deserve it but there is no test for 10th dan