The BB of C Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Every time I see that video I'm jelous of the students in that class I really am though. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 While it would be cool to train with Steven Segal,...It looks very fake to me. Not unlike the "chi master" videos. There's not reason for the guys to let go of him when he just shrugs his shoulders. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 It's nice having complaint students that want to get promoted. If you don't want to stand behind our troops, please..feel free to stand in front of them.Student since January 1975---4th Dan, retired due to non-martial arts related injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Remember the thread in the weapons forum about defending against someone with two knives? http://www.karateforums.com/65279-hand-to-hand-vs-duel-weider-vt32429.htmlWhen you watch these videos of Segal, note how his body shifts away from the attack, and does his counter at the same time. That's what we do also in Shorin Ryu...that sort of shifting away and closing down of an attack. There is little energy drain, movements are relaxed and fluid, not hurried...timing is of course very important, and is learned. Although I don't like Aikido students falling over so unrealistically when barely touched, there is some really good stuff in those videos if you know what you're looking at. If you don't want to stand behind our troops, please..feel free to stand in front of them.Student since January 1975---4th Dan, retired due to non-martial arts related injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BB of C Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 What really got me liking the idea of that class is his standards. I've always wanted a teacher like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 For a big man he is so quick. I think he is, like, 6'6", or something. Now, he is quite a bit bulkier, too.I was impressed by the weapons stuff. However, the weaponless randori did not impress me as much. The main thing is from the lack of more offensive attacks, like getting punched, as opposed to being run at with hands forward.Overall, though, I think Segal is the real deal, and I don't think I would try to punch him! https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 When you watch these videos of Segal, note how his body shifts away from the attack, and does his counter at the same time. That's what we do also in Shorin Ryu...that sort of shifting away and closing down of an attack.This is called Tai Sabaki, or something of the like, in Karate circles, right? https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 This is called Tai Sabaki, or something of the like, in Karate circles, right?My command of the Japanese language is pretty much nil, so I can't say. We use English for the most part in class. We call it body shifting, or "Change of Body"...we use it a lot, and stress it as highly important. If you don't want to stand behind our troops, please..feel free to stand in front of them.Student since January 1975---4th Dan, retired due to non-martial arts related injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow_Warrior Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 IMHO. It looks like hollywood film with pre arranged moves. It is dangerous , because some of his students could think they can handle gang in a Street fight... ´´ The evil may win a round , but not the fight ´´ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BB of C Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 IMHO. It looks like hollywood film with pre arranged moves. It is dangerous , because some of his students could think they can handle gang in a Street fight...That's the whole design of the class and that test though. You don't advance unless you can handle a gang in a street fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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