Existence_is _suffering Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Grappling is a pretty ridiculous idea in any fight that isn't one on one... The first person to call me mate gets a punch in the throat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marie curie Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 No contest. One on one there is a valid discussion, but when you are in someone's guard, his 3 friends can just beat on you at will. When someone with friends mounts you, just plan on being dead. You suck-train harder.......................Don't block with your faceA good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving. -Lao Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 No contest. One on one there is a valid discussion, but when you are in someone's guard, his 3 friends can just beat on you at will. When someone with friends mounts you, just plan on being dead.Assuming that survival cant be achieved when someone with friends has mounted you is hardly an approach that will help anyone interested in learning to defend themselves.If you believe there is a chance that at some stage in your life someone with friends will mount you, id plan on learning some effective escapes from the mount.Saying it cant be done, doesnt help anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 No contest. One on one there is a valid discussion, but when you are in someone's guard, his 3 friends can just beat on you at will. When someone with friends mounts you, just plan on being dead.Assuming that survival cant be achieved when someone with friends has mounted you is hardly an approach that will help anyone interested in learning to defend themselves.If you believe there is a chance that at some stage in your life someone with friends will mount you, id plan on learning some effective escapes from the mount.Saying it cant be done, doesnt help anybody.Good points, cross. I don't think anyone goes into a situation planning on fighting 3 guys, let alone grappling with 3. However, you can be pummelled from the mount by 3 just as easily as 2 can hold on to you and get pounded by the other. As cross mentions, if they take you down, it is best to know how to escape the grappling. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMW Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 5- not good odds. If you have more than one you just gotta hope that they are all shabby fighters...Which to be honest, most so called "street fighters" are.One of the most benevolent aspects of boxing is that you are forced to learn how to adapt to aggression.Behavior is more important than technique I believe. I've seen many people that can look pretty on a speed bag but lose confidence, fortitude, and ability when in a ring and getting not only slugged on but pressed with aggression and of course violent intent from within their opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dete Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 general concept:one on one = you can finish them by making sure they can't run, by taking them to the groundmultiple opponents = you want to survive, stay mobile, finish them another day. http://www.freewebs.com/knife4street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Fighting multiple opponents always = bad deal for you. Best defense: have friends. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baronbvp Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 I don't agree that most street fighters are shabby fighters. Of course, I don't know most street fighters, but the ones I have encountered or read about are somewhat experienced. Their technique may not be pretty. But when someone has been in a lot (over 20?) of street fights, they have some skills that got them through. 1. Willingness and ability to fight in spite of fear and adrenaline.2. Knowing about the pain and fighting in spite of it, perhaps even after being injured.3. Experience in no-holds-barred fighting that may include weapons.4. Experience fighting in street clothes and on pavement.5. Possible if not probable experience in multiple opponent situations.6. If they are intelligent at all, they have modified their technique after first-hand experience in what works for them and what doesn't.I'm guessing that they also don't want to go to the ground, because as others have said, it leaves you vulnerable and it's hard to run before the cops come. I think conflict deescalation and escape are your best options, with stand-up fighting as the choice over grappling the ground. As Cross said, use the ground only to get back to your feet - your getaway weapons of choice. Only as good as I make myself be, only as bad as I let myself be.Martial arts are like kinetic chess. Your move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallgeese Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Also, you're probibly going to have to train on the ground to know how to get back up form the ground. It won't happen just by accident.Some of these guys who will jump are pretty experianced. Just not in a formal setting. Certainly they have the edge in a lack of morality that translates to haveing an easier time hurting you. http://alphajiujitsu.com/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJhRVuwbm__LwXPvFMReMww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the beast Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Against multiple opponents I wouldnt advise going to the ground,because while you may have one opponent down there with you it leaves you open for attacks from the others. Semper Fi , Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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