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The school of Pakua I'm joining doesn't use a ranking system, which I think is great thats what I wanted. But for students of Pakua, or a similar style like I-Hsing or Tai Chi Chaun, if we consider the concept that a "black belt" is a student that knows the basics of his style, how long does it take the average student to reach that point in Pakua?

My question is that if you wanted to join a system that doesn't use ranking, why even bother to compare to a "black belt"?

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