NightOwl Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 I will freely admit that I do not know as much about the Korean arts as I should, and while I have had quite a bit of experience with TKD, I was wondering if someone could enlighten me on the other arts.Hapkido- is this sort of like TKD but with more grappling/ joint locks?TSD- Cool name...what's it about?Any others? Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.~Theodore Roosevelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 TSD was one of the kwans in Korea that did not join with Gen. Choi in his attempt at forming a nationally recognized Korean art, which came be known as TKD. So, TSD has some different forms than most TKD schools would use, but many of the same principles, as TSD and TKD can both trace their current roots to Shotokan.Hapkido is said to be derived from Daito-Ryu, and has been modified and some versions include some of the high and advanced kicks that can be seen in TKD.Taek-yon, as it is seen today, seems to be comprable to Caporiea, but seems more upright to me, from what I have seen. It is "played" like a game or dance. What roots this current style claims to have to the original, I don't know. I doubt much substantial, though.There is also a Korean sword art called Kumdo, which appears to me to be a Korean version of katana usage. However, I don't know any history or "roots" of this sword style.That is the best that my limited knowledge can provide at this point. I am sure there are others with broader knowledge of the above that can chip in. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungMan Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Hapkido was originally brought to Korea by Young Sul Choi, who lived with aikijitsu master Sogaku Takeda for decades, possibly as a servant. How Choi learned this art is open to debate, as there is no record of Takeda claiming Choi as a student. Originally, Hapkido was simply aikijitsu brought to Korea. Later, Han Jae Ji added many of the famous Korean kicks and developed modern Hapkido. Over the years, there has been much intermingling between TKD and HKD.Tae Kyon is the classical Korean kicking art/game that uses sweeps, circular, high, spinning, and jumping kicks. The TKD of today bears a much closer resemblance to Tae Kyon than the TKD of years ago, a result of the conscious Korean effort to get rid of the Japanese influences and revitalize the Korean roots. There is no martial arts without philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBN Doug Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Kuk Sool Won is out there as well.A relatively young MA when compared to some. Rather than go through the whole thing again, here's an article I wrote way back.http://www.karateforums.com/introduction-to-kuk-sool-won-vt5250.html Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BB of C Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Try this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_martial_arts#Korean_martial_arts_.28.ED.95.9C.EA.B5.AD.EB.AC.B4.EC.88.A0.2F.E9.9F.93.E5.9C.8B.E6.AD.A6.E8.A1.93.29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottman Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Has anyone ever actually heard of the ancient Korean martial art used for kicking calvary men off their horses? I've heard of it a number of times, but have never been able to find out what it's actually called (if it exists). I'll admit I haven't really looked very hard either. Tae Kwon Do - 3rd Dan, InstructorBrazilian Ju Jitsu - Purple Belt, Level 1 Instructor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Has anyone ever actually heard of the ancient Korean martial art used for kicking calvary men off their horses? I've heard of it a number of times, but have never been able to find out what it's actually called (if it exists). I'll admit I haven't really looked very hard either.I don't know that any such "style" actually existed. I have heard claims that Korean jumping kicks were designed for this manner. However, I doubt that is the case, and don't think that there is any evidence to prove that it was so. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottman Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 This is what I hear too. People have claimed to me that it was certain styles of Hwarang-Do, but I have never found evidence of this. From what I understand about Korea (from the history books I have read) it is difficult to raise many horses due to the hilly terrain, so armies from the peninsula traditionally didn't have the ability to mount as many calvary men as their opposer's. If this is true, then strategically it would make sense for them to train their infantry to kick calvary men off their mounts. Especially since they often went up against armies from China and Mongolia who not only had many horses, but were very skilled at fighting on them.I just would love to hear the actual evidence of this if it exists. Tae Kwon Do - 3rd Dan, InstructorBrazilian Ju Jitsu - Purple Belt, Level 1 Instructor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingedMonkey Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 TSD was one of the kwans in Korea that did not join with Gen. Choi in his attempt at forming a nationally recognized Korean art, which came be known as TKD. So, TSD has some different forms than most TKD schools would use, but many of the same principles, as TSD and TKD can both trace their current roots to Shotokan.Hapkido is said to be derived from Daito-Ryu, and has been modified and some versions include some of the high and advanced kicks that can be seen in TKD.Taek-yon, as it is seen today, seems to be comprable to Caporiea, but seems more upright to me, from what I have seen. It is "played" like a game or dance. What roots this current style claims to have to the original, I don't know. I doubt much substantial, though.There is also a Korean sword art called Kumdo, which appears to me to be a Korean version of katana usage. However, I don't know any history or "roots" of this sword style.That is the best that my limited knowledge can provide at this point. I am sure there are others with broader knowledge of the above that can chip in.From my research I did for presentations in college I learned that Taekkyon was completely unique, now Tae Kwon Do was influenced by many other styles but now directly to Shotokan. It was mainly a lot of schools combining together into an organization. TSD was actually a group that didn't want to join the rest. Now both of these have deep roots from Taekkyon because that is where most of the kicks originated and which was the martial art used by the Hwarang during the Three Kingdoms era of Korea. "If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting, but if I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying." - Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingedMonkey Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 oh and i really didn't mean anything mean by it sorry... its just i'm SUPER traditional and into history when it comes to Tae Kwon Do. "If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting, but if I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying." - Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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