Does anyone hate the US airforce

[Pacificshore]

EOT,

 

Read what you will, feel how you will, but always take things with a "grain of salt".......not everything that is written or reported is as factual as it seems, especially with the media.

[TKD_McGee]

On 2002-05-30 18:51, ckdstudent wrote:

 

Marine cadets? Never heard of them before in my life. Silent killing techniques aren't exactly tough. There's the throat slit, smother, neck-break, back-break, knife through the neck, eye spike, and that's just naming a few.

 

Due to the Budget Cuts and Politically Correct Army Policy none of the above will be trained. Instead you will be taunt how to detur enemys with a non-violent approach.

 

 

[Phantasmatic]

How come I never heard a thing about this, we always hear things that happen to the Military (i.e. the chinese and the spy plane incident)

 

 

[ZR440]

On 2002-05-30 08:43, Eye of the Tiger wrote:

 

The US ariforce have caused so many casualtys in all these countrys and get away with it. Quite a while ago in italy there was a cable car full of skiiers and familys and these 2 pilots decided to have some fun and started to fly around the cable car and ultimately killed about 50 people it was the same in the gulf war and vietnam.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that fighter that crashed into the skiers in Italy was piloted by Marines.

[G95champ]

Being a History teacher and an PROUD American. I agree with everyone one else here.

 

As far as why are our piolots not punished. Trust me they loose their wings a lot. Listen do you think the Pentagon is happy when a jet or anything for that matter screws up That only cost them about 15 million for the jet alone.

 

You know what? Crap happens! As far as your comments about the Gulf War its pretty common knowledge that we killed more of our own men that the Iraqi's did. Yeah our guys screwed up thats a pretty high punishment I think. Lets see prison or living with the guilt I killed my friends. Then if you want to talk about Vietnam try not knowing who the bad guy is. They were our friends by day and killed us by night.

 

Don't call down the thunder because one day you will be happy to see our F-15 Tomcats overhead allowing you to be free.

 

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(General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."

 

[ This Message was edited by: G95champ on 2002-06-04 00:48 ]

 

[ This Message was edited by: G95champ on 2002-06-04 00:52 ]

[ckdstudent]

To be fair though Vietnam was fought badly, America was trying to fight a guerilla army with traditional methods, and it didn't work particularly well. The best unit for anti-guerilla action is the British SAS, given the different training methods (American special forces tend to be trained as shock troops, whereas the British are trained for prolonged, miserable, dragged out, sniping, subtle fighting which can take months or more). This is not to insult the American army, maybe the generals, but the army did everything they could and many of the people in it showed incredible courage, and even more when they returned home to ridicule and disgust from the people that they were told they had been fighting for. And all because the US government didn't like communism.

 

 

[Don Gwinn]

ZR440 is absolutely right. It was the Marines who hit the cable on the lift in Italy. 50 people is a gross exaggeration, but I don't remember the exact number killed. It was horrible.

 

 

[Eye of the Tiger]

So you can see why I was pretty pist off.

 

 

[--]

**** happens. America is a good country, with generally good intentions, but it ultimately acts in self interest.

 

I am quite impressed with the militaristic/industrial headlock that America has the world in, but every nation that rises to crush others is eventually crushed in the same way. History makes no distinction between 'good' and 'bad'.

 

Ancient Egypt

 

Babylon

 

Ancient Rome

 

Chin Dynasty

 

Japanese Imperialism

 

Soviet Union

 

British Empire

 

Nazi Regime

 

Catholic Church

 

Capitalist America

 

Ever heard the proverb 'killers die'?

 

 

[Eye of the Tiger]

I like America and like the link between are 2 countries bit it is unfortunate that some of the time like -: **** happens and you just have to deal with it.