cross Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 I do know that there are some RBSD styles that adopt pieces of the trapping techniques from arts like Wing Chun.Agreed, most often however they opt for far less technical trapping options and settle for basic versions of trapping like immobilizing the limb and using it has an anchor point for strikes etc.
bushido_man96 Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 I do know that there are some RBSD styles that adopt pieces of the trapping techniques from arts like Wing Chun.Agreed, most often however they opt for far less technical trapping options and settle for basic versions of trapping like immobilizing the limb and using it has an anchor point for strikes etc.This has been my experience with it. In the system I work it in, we call it a "pin." We pin the limb, and then proceed to immobilize, etc. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
Mtal Posted July 1, 2007 Author Posted July 1, 2007 I do know that there are some RBSD styles that adopt pieces of the trapping techniques from arts like Wing Chun. I have used some in my Combat Hapkido training as well. It is not as elaborate as is used in the Wing Chun system, though. It is the more basic elements that are used.What are RBSD styles?Thanks all, I will check some of the styles out that you talked about.Oh I did do shoto kan way back, but did not too much trapping, I was only a green belt, maybe it comes in the higher levels. Jay Johnson
cross Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 What are RBSD styles?RBSD = Reality Based Self Defense.Check out: https://www.senshido.com/https://www.tonyblauer.com/https://www.hockscqc.com/Hope that gets you started.
mantis.style Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 Trapping in Wing Chun isn't overly complicated nor is it that technical. There is, or at least should be, a basic principle in wing chun training about your arms being in the right place. If your guard is good, it becomes the trap the moment you step forward. Trapping isn't something that you force to happen, it should already be there. The trap is also not something that exists beyond the point when contact is made. Of course you might turn the trap into a joint lock to take down but the actual moment of trapping is just that; a moment. I fear that if a school teaches trpping to be some kind of magical unbeatable tool, that the training maybe misguided; as if all you need to do is learn to trap. To me, it is focusing on the wrong part of the training. traditional chinese saying:speak much, wrong much
bushido_man96 Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 In the latest edition of Black Belt Magazine, an article by Mick Coup (Core Combatives) discussed the use of indexing in self-defense. His "indexing" looked very similar to trapping, in that you use one hand to make a contact point on the opponent's body, using it as a reference point, and then proceed to attack with the other hand.I thought that the article was sensible, and the concepts behind the "indexing" were very simple. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
mantis.style Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 I should also add that trapping is a term that I've only ever come across when in a wing chun conducted in English. I've never heard a term in the chinese that expressively and is exclusively used for "trapping". traditional chinese saying:speak much, wrong much
cross Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 In the latest edition of Black Belt Magazine, an article by Mick Coup (Core Combatives) discussed the use of indexing in self-defense. His "indexing" looked very similar to trapping, in that you use one hand to make a contact point on the opponent's body, using it as a reference point, and then proceed to attack with the other hand.I thought that the article was sensible, and the concepts behind the "indexing" were very simple.Iain Abernethy uses a similar concept called "setting datums" i beleive.
masterintraining Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 we use alot of trapping in mantis kung-fu,especially my sifu, iv noticed alot of r traps cum from the same 2 motions, but can be go further into many other techniques. you must learn different combinations of techniques down to your very soul and they must come without thinking when you finish with one technique, you must immediately go into another until you have attained your goal which is to destroy the enemy.
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