ARADOX Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 Are these a good idea, think tominagi in aikido, I like how you can take someone out by throwing yourself on the ground (I play too much tekken I know ) obviously this isn't goo if there are multiple opponants but against one... I wish I wish I hadn't killed that fish
marie curie Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 In judo they can be great- in a real fight... I'd avoid because you never know what shard of glass or pointy rock is somewhere below you and you just didn't notice. You suck-train harder.......................Don't block with your faceA good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving. -Lao Tzu
lordtariel Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 http://www.judoinfo.com/tomonage.htmIf you actually do it right, they're pretty good. A well placed tominagi can send someone flying. We train with the foot kind of to the side of the groin, but that doesn't mean you can't stomp the groin while you're doing the throw if you need to. Do it right and it's an effective technique. Don't do it right and you're on the ground on your back and someone is standing over you. Not a good situation to be in. I would say it really has to depend on the situation. There's no place like 127.0.0.1
bushido_man96 Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 My dad told me once that he successfully pulled a technique like this off in a fight. He said it was effective, too. No fight left in that guy. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
marie curie Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 I can do tomonage on the mat, but still I wouldn't do it on the concrete. You suck-train harder.......................Don't block with your faceA good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving. -Lao Tzu
USCMAAI Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Doing a sacrifice throw can be an effective tool in self-defense if done correctly. Part of doing it correctly is recovery. When practicing any technique, recovery should be as important as getting the technique off. Staying in a prone position after a throw, is the same as leaving your leg sticking out after delivering a side kick. In my system, we have several throws (some of which are sacrifice). We stress returning to a standing base as soon as you can. We also train in ground fighting as well, but in a self-defense situation, the last place you want to be is on the ground for very long. "Not every tiger will pounce, but every tiger may!"K.MabonUnited States Combat Martial Arts Association International
ARADOX Posted May 19, 2007 Author Posted May 19, 2007 Are there any other examples of sacrifice throws? I wish I wish I hadn't killed that fish
lordtariel Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Are there any other examples of sacrifice throws?Here's a list of the sacrifice throws in judo(sutemi waza). Tomoe-nage -- Circle ThrowUki-waza -- Floating TechniqueYoko-otoshi -- Side DropUra-nage -- Rear ThrowYoko-gake -- Side HookHane-makikomi -- Spring Wrap-around ThrowSumi-gaeshi -- Corner ReversalYoko-guruma -- Side WheelSoto-makikomi -- Outer Wrap AroundHikkomi-gaeshi -- Pulling-in ReversalTani-otoshi -- Valley DropUchi-makikomi -- Inner WraparoundTawara-gaeshi -- Rice Bale ReversalYoko-wakare -- Side SeparationYou can see animated gifs of the thows here: http://www.judoinfo.com/animate.htm There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Justin Treadaway Posted May 27, 2007 Posted May 27, 2007 Just hope the guy hasnt trained in rolls, then he might just roll out of it. We actually train to roll out of stuff like that.
ps1 Posted May 27, 2007 Posted May 27, 2007 Just hope the guy hasnt trained in rolls, then he might just roll out of it. We actually train to roll out of stuff like that.If being done for self defense, you don't let go of the opponent. This allows you to drive his/her head into the pavement. Letting go is done for safety specifically so the opponent can roll/breakfall and avoid injury. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."
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