Karateka_latino Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 HI, I went last night to visit a brand new Kung Fu school that opened a couple of weeks ago. Talked with the person in charge and he informed me that they teach northen kung fu and they are affiliated with the Chin woo association. Now, I asked him what exactly they teach, he tells me they teach the fundamental routines as a base and from there they teach eagle claw, shaolin, and 2 more i dont remember, plus the weapons. besides, tai chi, pakua, xinyi, And Sanda. My question is.. is that common, i mean, its common in chin woo association to have instructors prepared to teach ALL those forms and techniques??? I saw the class and I like it, but i have this little doubt.
lordtariel Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 Maybe they have more than one instructor. While the number you quote is certainly a lot, it's not that many that it would give me pause. The only problem I have with a single teacher teaching multiple arts is that they're not as deep into any one art unless the arts are really similar. There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Kante Posted May 26, 2007 Posted May 26, 2007 There are either more than one instructor. Or that one instructor is fairly old enough to have mastered each one of these styles.You tell us. Do a checkup first, don't just blindly join a school. "If you always put limits on what you can do, physical or anything else, it'll spread over into the rest of your life. It'll spread over into your work, into your mortality, into your entire being. There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you."Bruce Lee
RealWingChunKuen Posted May 29, 2007 Posted May 29, 2007 HI, I went last night to visit a brand new Kung Fu school that opened a couple of weeks ago. Talked with the person in charge and he informed me that they teach northen kung fu and they are affiliated with the Chin woo association. Now, I asked him what exactly they teach, he tells me they teach the fundamental routines as a base and from there they teach eagle claw, shaolin, and 2 more i dont remember, plus the weapons. besides, tai chi, pakua, xinyi, And Sanda. My question is.. is that common, i mean, its common in chin woo association to have instructors prepared to teach ALL those forms and techniques??? I saw the class and I like it, but i have this little doubt.In the kung fu world you will quite often find masters who have mastered more than a few styles. The only problem nowadays is that most teachers who teach single styles have not even managed to master that single style. That means most teachers out there are at best mediocre. This is the good old Mcdojo/kwan syndrom. This means that you have to be careful. Ask (as diplomatically as possible) for proof of their Chin Woo affiliation. Also check out https://www.chinwoo.com for more info.Good luck Fighting arts that were not effective for fighting and selfdefense, never lasted long enough in martial arts history, to gain the Traditional Martial Arts - TMA - status.
Karateka_latino Posted June 3, 2007 Author Posted June 3, 2007 Hi, thanks for all your opinions.I got more information about this school. Here is the website of the master of the instructor in charge of the school im talking about. https://www.kungfutoday.com the sifu in charge is Nick Scrima.
RealWingChunKuen Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Hi, thanks for all your opinions.I got more information about this school. Here is the website of the master of the instructor in charge of the school im talking about. https://www.kungfutoday.com the sifu in charge is Nick Scrima.Hello Karateka_Latino, I've just checked out the site for Chin Woo U.S.A. and cannot see this school's name in the list of affiliates. Click: https://www.chinwoo.com/USA/affiliates.htm If this school is an affiliate then they should be on the list (unless I have missed something). If you don't see any mention of them either, then it may be best to avoid this school, because if they have lied about this, then god knows what else they will be dishonest about also.Unfortunately nowadays the chances of finding a bad kung fu school are many, many, many times higher than finding a good one, so one has to be careful.Buena suerte. Fighting arts that were not effective for fighting and selfdefense, never lasted long enough in martial arts history, to gain the Traditional Martial Arts - TMA - status.
Justin Treadaway Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 Yes it is very common for Kung fu masters to have mastered multiple styles. Most of the different kung fu styles are very similar and carry over from one style to the next very easily, with that being said if he has lied already then I would be leery of the school. As for the last comment about finding a good kung fu school that is true, but that is also true for pretty much every style, so many schools are just belt factories so they can get more money/students (do a kata get a belt). I am so lucky to have found a traditional kung fu/ modern arnis school that actually makes sure you have mastered the form and know the combat application of every move in the form before you can move on, we also have to learn control moves, knife defenses, throws, rolls, how to fall, weapons, defend against weapons when you areunarmed, fight multiple opponents etc etc etc..... But don't judge the guy yet, since he just started the school he might not have been added on that list yet, but I would sit in on a few of the classes and see how he teaches and stuff before I would fully join the school. Hopefully, you can find a good kung fu school, the style has so much to offer. GOOD LUCK
Kajukenbopr Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 the styles you mentioned are complimentary to one another, so unless u find conflicting martial arts, u have found a lot of material to grow on.however, u will most likely get martial arts that are not completely pure- ex. a linear pakua, a soft xing yi, etc.its not bad just because its not pure, but it will be a little bit different from other schools- their own "flavor" <> Be humble, train hard, fight dirty
Karateka_latino Posted June 5, 2007 Author Posted June 5, 2007 I went to the school and personally talk with the teacher, and watched a class.It happends that the "person in charge" i talk to the first time wasn't the teacher itself and it was a missunderstood information, since i asked the information the first time from a phone boot, the street noise, and people around made ME missundertand the things that were be saying to me. NO, they are NOT directly affiliated with the Chin Woo, its just they happend to train similar styles and have hosted seminars with them.From the investigation i did over the entire weekend and today, seems like its a clean, legit, Nothern Kung Fu school.
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