SeiDoRyu Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Hi, I have been told 3 different ways of doing this kata and i was just wondering if anyone knows which is the right way. on the first set of defences(blocking oizuki) is it : Escape (with no block or guard) maeken(jodan) double cross-step(mawette), escape with shatouki block maeken double cross-step or : Escape with a sukui uke jodan GAURD(not an active block just gaurding the face) maeken, mawette etc.. On the second set(blocking maegeri) i have been doing : Sukui uke Gedan, jodan maeken, jodan shuto strike, mawette then gedan berai etc.. but i was told last night (5 days before my grading) that it is not sukui uke but a block that i think is called shoteuke, you bring both hands round in a 3/4 circle and knock(strike) the kick to the side with the heel of the leading palm. any thoughts as to which on is right ?? Thanks in advance Just my opinions, toast me if you want ------------Understanding what you do not understand is far more important than what you think you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias_Reece Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 We have this a alot - especially in clubs where instructors have come from different backgrounds. You have to remember that there is no such thing as a 'right' way, unless there is a really massive ridiculous 'difference' (we had a problem in our 2 clubs with the "kosa-uke" in Heian Sandan.) But back on the topic - I actually don't know this kata - may I ask what style you practice? Hope this helps "You Are Never Given A Dream Without Also Being Given The Power To Make It True. You May Have To Work For It, However"Principal Kobudo Instructor & OwnerWest Yorkshire Kobudo Academy2nd Kyu (Matayoshi Okinawan Kobudo, IOKA UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeiDoRyu Posted May 23, 2002 Author Share Posted May 23, 2002 Sure, i do 'Sei Do Ryu' it's an Okinawan style very similar to Wado-Ryu but mixed with aspects of other -ryu styles and a bit of shotokan. I have been told recently that it is quite a secretive style and not many people have access to the so called 'bible' - a handwritten book outlining the style. That is all i know about it so far. The Kata is the first of the partnered routines, one attacks one defends and then you mawette back-2-back and the defender double-steps to switch stances. The attacks are fairly easy, 1oizuki - mawette - oizuki- mawette. 2Maegeri -mawette-maegeri-mawette. 3mawashi geri jodan - mawette - mawashi geri jodan - mawette. 4oizuki jodan(KIAI). The defences are 1 & 2 in last post, 3 is yokouke- maeken- strike shuto- mawette, Kokutsu dachi- yokouke- maeken- strike shuto- mawette. 4 is short escape + *(KIAI)an inside shatouke- gyakazuki chudan- strike shato chudan. *I'm not sure about this, you bring both hands round in a semi-circle then strike down and accross on the incoming arm with the shato part of the hand, closing them down instead of opening them up as with a normal shatouke. I know what your saying about there not being a 'right' way to do things, but if 3 of the examiners are all looking for different things, what do you do? 2 of the instructors are like student instructors, higher than black belt but not ready to take their own class yet, so we have quite a few problems. Kosa-uke is in our style but i don't think i've done it yet, we mainly do Juji uke , is it similar? and our katas are Pinan shodan..nedan etc.. Cheers Chris Just my opinions, toast me if you want ------------Understanding what you do not understand is far more important than what you think you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias_Reece Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Chris Yeah, I suppose I could have guessed what style you do - it just goes to show how much attention I pay!!! LOL I am not familiar with that kata. Juji-uke is an X-block, with the arms crossed. Kosa-uke is done with one arm doing gedan barai, whilst the other doing an uchi-uke. RE: The 3 different examiners - That is a major problem in many schools without an over-ruling instructor that teaches. At the moment, at our club my father and I are the people that set the techniques, and our senior coaches follow what we say. The problem arises at our other club, but the instructors/coaches there work well together, and any problems tend to get ironed out immediately. But at gradings, there isn't really a problem. Hope this is OK, but I'm a bit brief at the moment....tired...so very tired "You Are Never Given A Dream Without Also Being Given The Power To Make It True. You May Have To Work For It, However"Principal Kobudo Instructor & OwnerWest Yorkshire Kobudo Academy2nd Kyu (Matayoshi Okinawan Kobudo, IOKA UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeiDoRyu Posted May 31, 2002 Author Share Posted May 31, 2002 That's sound, cheers. Yes, i think that's the way it's meant to work at our club too, but you know how things go. At the gradings there are 3 other votes but our Sensei(my Uncle,luckily for me) has the final say So i go with what he says when i get a chance to ask him. I managed to get an answer on the kata question before my grading so everything is cool now. Cheers again Just my opinions, toast me if you want ------------Understanding what you do not understand is far more important than what you think you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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