koreantiger81 Posted May 20, 2002 Posted May 20, 2002 The name Tae Kwon do has been used too loosely...I thought Tae kwon do was only the World TAe kwon do federation, and the INternational Tae Kwon do Federation... However, there is the Modern-American Tae Kwon Do, Jhoon Rhee's system of Tae kwon do, International Tae kwon do Association, World Tae kwon do ASsociation, United States TAe kwon do Union, etc. Jhoon Rhee's system also claims they are part of the International TAe kwon do federation, when they don't practice the "sine wave" and only practice I.T.F forms after black belt. Also they have a brownbelt in their system!~ I.T.F and W.T.F don't have brownbelts... I don't know if any other organization other than the I.T.F and the W.T.F have the right to use the label TAE KWON DO. I felt mislead when my black belt in jhoon ree's system of tae kwon do was not recognized with the I.T.F, when Jhoon Ree's system of tae kwon do is part of the I.T.F. What do you guys think? Kinesiologist/TrainerBlack-Belt
ckdstudent Posted May 21, 2002 Posted May 21, 2002 This is why Tae Kwon Do is the largest martial art in the world, nearly as many forms of it as there are of Kung Fu. ---------Pil SungJimmy B
Ti-Kwon-Leap Posted May 21, 2002 Posted May 21, 2002 It's just a name. Ti-Kwon-Leap"Annoying the ignorant since 1961"
TKD_McGee Posted May 21, 2002 Posted May 21, 2002 They are all related in some mysterious way. I am in the TKD Union myself... its a Northwest US thing. Do unto others, as they done to you.
ckdstudent Posted May 21, 2002 Posted May 21, 2002 They all originate eventually from Korea, and many of the techniques and principles are similar between the various versions. ---------Pil SungJimmy B
KickChick Posted May 21, 2002 Posted May 21, 2002 Ah ... so you thought wrong! There are numerous branches and associations of TKD(sport, traditional and ecclectic). Unfortunately, practitioners will be well aware of the opposing political problems of Tae Kwon Do and the agruments between associations, Masters, Grand-Masters and even Korea as a country on this subject. There is an incredible history and tradition that is the foundation of this martial art. Each branch will have its own story to tell. I feel as a whole from what I have seen many new associations/unions are slowly uniting TKD into a more traditional martial art. _________________ KarateForums Sensei 1st dan Tae Kwon Do (ITF) Cardio/Fitness Kickboxing Instr. [ This Message was edited by: KickChick on 2002-05-21 11:11 ]
tessone Posted May 21, 2002 Posted May 21, 2002 Where does Korea as a nation (or government, I suppose) stand in the argument? Chris TessoneBrown Belt, Kuk Sool Won
KickChick Posted May 21, 2002 Posted May 21, 2002 In 1966 Choi formed the International Taekwon-Do Federation and left Korea and the KTA, and eventually in 1973 the KTA changed its format, essentially becoming the World Taekwondo Federation. (Actually the Korean TKD Association still exists as a national governing body for TKD in Korea; the World TKD Federation is the worldwide parent organization and each country has its own national governing body. In the U.S. this is the United States TKD Union.) In size, the World Taekwondo Federation is much bigger, with many more people involved world wide all committed to spreading the art. WTF schools vary widely in what forms are practiced, how much stress is given to self-defense versus competition, testing requirements, etc. Its history is that of tolerating differences and sharing credit. The ITF is a small (although worldwide) organization driven by one man, who makes sure the entire organization does the same forms in the same way. Politically, Choi has received much criticism for his trips to North Korea and support of the Communist dictator.
tessone Posted May 21, 2002 Posted May 21, 2002 Gotcha. I remember seeing some ads in TKD Times calling for unification and things. Is it even a possibility? Chris TessoneBrown Belt, Kuk Sool Won
spinninggumby Posted May 22, 2002 Posted May 22, 2002 Remember that a lot of the differences and separation between ITF and WTF (and other taekwondo groups or organizations) result from political motives or reasons. The possibility of uniting the ITF and WTF is almost as likely to happen as the U.S. joining with communist China or Afghanistan as a single country. Maybe I'm just being too cynical? 'Conviction is a luxury for those on the sidelines'William Parcher, 'A BEAUTIFUL MIND'
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