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[learning kempo-karate]

Hello, Ring fighting has rules....on the streets..NO rules..eye gouges, throat hits, you can break anything here...and no time limits..any thing can be use weapons...more than one person can jump in against you...they will keep hitting you to the end many times (the guys I know who came from gangs).

Yes not all grapplers will shoot....most people fight standing up-first. Then it becomes an all out fight..that can go to the ground.

As a train martial artist the goal is to end it quickly, to survival serious injuries, and stop the other person from harming anyone.

It is fighting the person who wants to rob,rape,hurt you,has only one intent (kill you)....this type of fighing will be different and end different from the kids fighting on the streets. Most times they will keep hitting you over and over...even with clubs...

As the years go by.....you will view fighting in a different way than you do now...for me I see things differently from most........Aloha

PS: Off course NO two fights will be the same.....one day..you will face someone....and maybe NO second chance? ....than too late to learn?

[lordtariel]

Ring fighting is real fighting- theres no two ways about it. What you're referring to is "street fighting" and I've seen plenty of that. To be quite honost, its atrocious and hurts my eyes to watch people fight when they are so bad at it.

I have to respectfully disagree with you here to an extent. In ring fighting, there's an end to the match, and the opponent is going to be pulled off at the end or if someone is injured. It's a one on one match in a controlled environment.

You don't have to worry about his buddy coming up and knocking you in the head. You don't have to worry about your opponent possibly having a weapon and being willing to use it. You don't have to deal with the legal fallout of getting in a brawl with someone. I'll admit that ring fighting will give you some good training(Hey, those guys are really tough to do what they do), and the techniques are really effective, but fighting(where opponents are seriously trying to injure each other, not compete) is chaotic, ugly, dirty and dangerous and something nobody in their right mind wants to get involved in regardless of their training.

What "ring fighting" is, is a competition between two people. It's probably about as close as you can safely get to a combat situation, but it's not the same.

This is starting to get off topic of the original post however and should probably start its own thread if this topic wishes to continue too much further.

[Kajukenbopr]

i dont see what the capoeira question have to do with the tournament but,

yeah, i think capoeira is a very effective martial art for fighting- it was invented for that very purpose, to defend themselves in a really dangerous environment