MA Clichés

[a_ninja]

well ninjas are one, but some people dont like them because of their unhonorable history, but know there are not too many ninjas around, and when i classify one as a ninja i mean he goes for the one hit knock out doesnt want to play around keeps to himself mostly but isnt hated and he tends to do stuff alone, and also he tries to work secretley like train alone.

Me i fall under the category of..... well im really not sure what category i fall under i know i just have a love for martial arts

[squintykick]

hehe

I'll have to try the non-perceived threat line. I likey!

[Andrew_Patton]

hmm... not really a cliche, and slightly off topic but, I have to say:

hm....my sensei once told me that a long time ago all students had white belts and they would discolor and turn black over time, symbolizing how long they had been training. Just a thought.

that's something I've heard from almost every karate instructor in the area, and something that irks me a good one every once in a while, it completely takes the influence judo had on karate, and tae kwon do, (rank system mainly) and just stomps all over it! I always seem to wonder if MA instructors do read books... oh the horror stories, I wont get to far into it BUT:

* Goju Ryu ppl are slow and only know how to take punches

* JuJutsu (not BJJ) is just rolling around on the floor

* Japanese Karate had no influence on modern TKD

* Aikido is the Japanese Samurai form of unarmed combat (I've also heard that Aikido is the Japanese sword system, and Iaido is Samurai fighting 0_o)

So, I'd say my cliche is the "know it all" instructor

/Rant

[Shorin Ryuu]

Karate ni sente nashi.

[Andrew_Patton]

ah yes, "there is no first atack in karate" hmm, that's never been an issue with the founders of karate, I've heard a story about Choki Mobobu being asked to "step outside" by a fellow wielding a knife and when the other man was about to exit the building Motobu kicked him in the back effectively ending a fight (a fight where he would have most likely lost his life) without waiting and abiding by "Karate ni sente nashi"

[bushido_man96]

ah yes, "there is no first atack in karate" hmm, that's never been an issue with the founders of karate, I've heard a story about Choki Mobobu being asked to "step outside" by a fellow wielding a knife and when the other man was about to exit the building Motobu kicked him in the back effectively ending a fight (a fight where he would have most likely lost his life) without waiting and abiding by "Karate ni sente nashi"

I think that many people tend to translate this phrase a little bit too literaly. In the instance that you mention, pulling the knife could be looked at as the initiation, or the 'first strike.' Mobobu would realize this, and he thus put himself in the best position possible to gain an advantage and neutralize his attacker.

Just my thoughts, though.

[username8517]

ah yes, "there is no first atack in karate" hmm, that's never been an issue with the founders of karate, I've heard a story about Choki Mobobu being asked to "step outside" by a fellow wielding a knife and when the other man was about to exit the building Motobu kicked him in the back effectively ending a fight (a fight where he would have most likely lost his life) without waiting and abiding by "Karate ni sente nashi"

I think that many people tend to translate this phrase a little bit too literaly. In the instance that you mention, pulling the knife could be looked at as the initiation, or the 'first strike.' Mobobu would realize this, and he thus put himself in the best position possible to gain an advantage and neutralize his attacker.

Just my thoughts, though.

Actually I was thinking the exact same thing.

[Andrew_Patton]

I was just simply stating that to many MAists take that phrase at face value, and merely teach a "don't escalate things" viewpoint

[bushido_man96]

I was just simply stating that to many MAists take that phrase at face value, and merely teach a "don't escalate things" viewpoint

I agree with your view point here.

[NightOwl]

My philosophy on the 'No first Strike' rule:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4i9gG85vIio