Mrt333 Posted January 8, 2007 Posted January 8, 2007 Alongside the diet and cardio, are you keeping your ab workouts nice and varied too? I find my body tends to get 'used to' standard crucnhes and I stop seeing much benefit. Make sure you mix it up with different timings (fast/slow/hold at top), twisting crunches, leg raises etc. Anything that makes you ache!!CheersD
sonofkanga Posted January 8, 2007 Posted January 8, 2007 if you are doing your karate frequently you don't realy need the crunches,as your midsection is getting a proper workout-as in core conditioning.all karate movements emphesise a strong pelvic motion.this movement is facilitated by the:rectus abdominus ,oblique major and minor ,quadratum lumborum ,multifibius.so you can not get any better than that.this way you are strengthening them in a practical movement that will enhance your performance.something you will never get wiyh crunches. THE TRUE ESSENCE OF THE MARTIAL WAY CAN BE REALISED ONLY THROUGH EXPIRIENCE;KNOWING THIS NEVER FEAR ITS DEMANDS.
bushido_man96 Posted January 8, 2007 Posted January 8, 2007 That may be true, songofkanga, it won't really develop the muscles as much as some weight resisted movements through crunches and other abdominal exercises.I am proof of this. I have the old spare tire, and 13 years of just martial arts training hasn't changed that, and it hasn't improved my ability to do crunches or other abdominal exercises. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
Mrt333 Posted January 8, 2007 Posted January 8, 2007 We're not talking about doing crunches INSTEAD of martial arts training!In my experience, most instructors (and coaches in other sports) say it is always worth doing supplemental training (be it stomach crunches / weights / plyometrics etc) as a supplememnt to your karate training. True, your main focus should always be studying your art but other types of physical conditioning can only help your performance.Ok, not entirely relevant, but Bruce Lee was one of the first advocates of 'crunches' (as opposed to conventional situps). And if it's good enough for him...D
bushido_man96 Posted January 8, 2007 Posted January 8, 2007 We're not talking about doing crunches INSTEAD of martial arts training!In my experience, most instructors (and coaches in other sports) say it is always worth doing supplemental training (be it stomach crunches / weights / plyometrics etc) as a supplememnt to your karate training. True, your main focus should always be studying your art but other types of physical conditioning can only help your performance.Ok, not entirely relevant, but Bruce Lee was one of the first advocates of 'crunches' (as opposed to conventional situps). And if it's good enough for him...DI agree with you here. I think it is important to cross-train in other methods, even if they are not relevant to your practice. The reason being is that sometimes, you just have to shake things up so your body doesn't get too used to doing the same old routine. It also makes it more fun for you. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
lordtariel Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 I don't have a six pack.....I'm sporting the keg! I was gonna say I have a 2-liter There's no place like 127.0.0.1
baronbvp Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 As hard as this is for me to say......you have to give up the beer. You'll be amazed at how this one thing will make a difference. Only as good as I make myself be, only as bad as I let myself be.Martial arts are like kinetic chess. Your move.
cross Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Have the same problem lot of sit ups no packLike others have said, your ab muscles may be quiet strong, but if there is still that layer of fat over the top you wont see any of the definition.
Dazed and Confused Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 As hard as this is for me to say......you have to give up the beer. You'll be amazed at how this one thing will make a difference.Absolutely right. I was training hard for RAF selection a couple of years ago (eventually thwarted by a sudden resurgence of asthma ), running five miles every other day and doing 100 push ups and 200 sit ups on the none-running days all of which got me very fit but not particularly muscular. It was only when I stopped drinking for the last month before selection that suddenly a 6 pack emerged. I was so gutted to be rejected at the medical that staying off the beer permanantly wasn't an option, so that six pack is buried once more...
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