Prodigy-Child Posted July 30, 2001 Posted July 30, 2001 i heard somewhere that pressure points do not always work in a self defense situation. the article that i was reading said that when they are demonstrated, it is usually on willing and relaxed participants....but in a scuffle when the adrenaline is pumping it would be hard to hit the precise area and even if you do it might not work is this true at all? You can boo me if you want, You know I'm right!-Chris Rock
MuayTB1 Posted July 30, 2001 Posted July 30, 2001 Pressure points works in ring fighing and real life fighting. To me a pressure point is a soft spots that is easily hurt. In ring fighing, the fighter always try to hit the spot where the the other fighter so he/ she would spot fighting. "Don't think!! Feel..." -Bruce Leehttps://www.muaythaiboxing.friendpages.comThis site is dumb but I made it so it is good.
shortdog Posted July 30, 2001 Posted July 30, 2001 i got a book that shows 50 pressure points. its called "dragons touch" it shows how to use the points. i find ti very informative. SHORTDOG In the road of life there are many paths. If you don't know where you are going, any one will take you there.join me in my quest to aquire knowledge of all martial arts of the world athttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/worldofmartialartsor email
Angus Posted July 31, 2001 Posted July 31, 2001 Sometimes they may not work, it all depends on how u execute and back them up... The groin, for instance is a pressure point, but hitting someone there mught not always work if they are able to somehow block out the pain. Don't rely on pressure points to win a fight though man, cos u may find that the guy is able to fight them off... I also find that bigger guys have the ability to fight off pressure point pain. I would use locks before i ever used pressure points though. Angus Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear.
Tim Greer Posted July 31, 2001 Posted July 31, 2001 Indeed, it might be difficult to attack a pressure point in a real fight. You also have to be accurate and know the right depths, etc. Especially for cavity presses, but that's often best left to use when you've already got them in a lock or something. Once you go, you can do a cavity press, hit a vital nerve and send them into a painful situation they will never forget. Regards,Tim Greer -> admin@chatbase.com | Phone: 530-222-7244I study any and every style and I'm always looking to spar!!Also, if I'm not around for a while, I'm just away training.
Kato Posted July 31, 2001 Posted July 31, 2001 Pressure points are usfull in any fighting situation, and many of the strikes we learn in Karate are designed to activate pressure points. However as others have sayed they have to backed up with other moves because not all presure points work on all people and there is the rare individual that is compleatly imune to them.
iamrushman Posted July 31, 2001 Posted July 31, 2001 in my experience pressure points takes years of practice to get it right........better you use nerve points or centers to weaken your opponent in certain areas and then apply whatever technique you prefer to get the advantage. just my view rushman (karate forums sensei)3rd dan wtf/kukkiwon"saying nothing...sometimes says the most"--e. dickerson
Goose Posted August 5, 2001 Posted August 5, 2001 We learn pressure points at our dojo. There are also a book that I can recommend on the subject 'Pressure Point Fighting: A Guide to the Secret Heart of Asian Martial Arts' by Rick Clark, which can be found at http://www.amazon.co.uk & http://www.amazon.com. I also understand that there's a Karate Instructor by the name of George Dillman, who has one or two books on the subject. _________________ Warmest Regards Darryl Garrick (aka Goose) This Message was edited by: Goose on Aug 6, 2001 4:05pm Goose6th Kyu Shotokan Karate9th Kyu Okinawan KobudoKarate International Black Belt Schools (UK)
jdoub Posted August 6, 2001 Posted August 6, 2001 To all: Pressure points are real. They are not to be confused with "vital" points. Rick Clark studied under George Dillman and George Dillman was introduced to the reality of pressure points and what kata really has by Taika Oyata. Dillman links (or related): http://www.dillman.com/ http://www.kyusho.com/ http://www.dragonsociety.com/ http://www.edlakekyusho.com/ Taika Oyata links: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/2264/ http://www.ryushu.com/ http://www.polanderkempo.com/ It is real. John John E. Doub, Jr.Heiwa-Ryu Martial Arts Academyhttp://www.heiwa-ryu.orgmailto:jdjr@heiwa-ryu.org
Tim Greer Posted August 6, 2001 Posted August 6, 2001 I didn't ge the impression that anyone was saying they weren't real, but I can see why my response may have given you another impression about possibly being confused about the differences with cavity presses, as opposed to pressure points. Yes, there are definitely differences, I was simply saying, that with a lot of things, even though there's more than a few pressure points throughout the body, that it can be difficult to utilize tham in a fight. Most people find it easier to apply certain things when an opponant is subdued and cavity presses are definitely effective in that regard and situation. This is not to say that hitting pressure points is impossible, aren't real, aren't effective or anything of the like. Therefore, in an effort to be more clear (more than my last response anyway), most people are more likely to be able to use them in a situation where you have someone in a lock or some type of controlling of seizing situation. This is why I meant to say that some people can still use certain techniques that might be more difficult if you're not able to hit a pressure point by an alternative means, such as striking it or kicking it. I do highly suggest that people indeed research, learn and/or otherwise look into the realities of pressure points and nerve centers. There is a great benefit to be had and used in any art form (especially if you've got them controlled or in a lock or whatever. heh, heh.) Regards,Tim Greer -> admin@chatbase.com | Phone: 530-222-7244I study any and every style and I'm always looking to spar!!Also, if I'm not around for a while, I'm just away training.
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