nine_weapons Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 You mention "the founders," and it takes me back to style. I wonder if bouncing would be similar to what the jenga is to Capoeira. Would this be unnecessary motion as well? It is good for the dance, and getting your body going to generate momentum, but would you want to break out in a jenga, a-la Only the Strong, when defending yourself?I train with capoeira guys on occasion. the jenga is not a bounce. Not only that, but they do NOT do it while fighting intensely. If you watch capoerista in a joda, once they get going, they are kicking and moving. When there is a lull, or when their rhythm seems off, they return to jenga. Another note about the jenga is that (at least in this capoeira group) is that the feet remain in contact with the ground - it glides over the floor - they are not picking the the moving foot off of the floor. If you have ever seen/done kali, it is almost similar to their male "V" stepping, triangle stepping drill that they do.bouncing is more akin to a shuffle, but when you bounce, feet tend to leave the ground. Many (if not all) styles rely on connection to the ground in order to establish some sort of root to it, no? it adds power to your strikes. Also, with that lack of connection to the ground, it is easier to offbalance a person, as they have already uprooted themself. My thoughts on martial arts and weight training:http://www.hesfit.com/men/comment/bodyweight-training-vs-weight-training-a-martial-artists-perspective/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 I train with capoeira guys on occasion. the jenga is not a bounce. Not only that, but they do NOT do it while fighting intensely.I know that the jenga is not a bounce. I was comparing it to bouncing, wondering if it would fall into the unnecessary movement category. You answered the question well for me though, so thanks. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasZab Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Just my two cents...I've been in sparring matches with the boxer-bouncer type. While it can help them if they're fast on their feet and they actually know what they're doing, most of the time I'd say it just gets people really angry. =D La voie. La vérité. La vie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybren Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 There's no such thing as a "technical" answer. If it works, it's "technically" right for those people.so technically, "ain't" is a real word and is grammatically correct? No. It's slang... incorrect, but people use it. Same goes for anything. Just because a person does it doesn't make it right, just means it works for said person.*cough*http://m-w.com/dictionary/ain'tWebster says it's aight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david123 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 it depends...by just genaral knowledge you could easily be sweeped or taken off your feet extremely easily, even just moving your front foot gives the opertunity for a sweep...i dont know why pros do it but personly i do it a wee bit in comps and stuff but in training you should never bounce about...or in a street fight bouncing about gives opertunities and could have catasrophic consequences! practice doesnt make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistassailant5 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I personally think that bouncing is ok because I personally am more agile while I am bouncing and I never thought it telegraphed your movements, if anything it would make them more random in my opinion. I am not a fighter, I am a guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee M Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 In points fighing you see most fighters bounce.It what you call "warm engine" and gives you the ability to react faster. martial arts training boxing for the streetstreet boxing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 In points fighing you see most fighters bounce.It what you call "warm engine" and gives you the ability to react faster.Yeah, its the idea that is easier to go into motion if you are already in motion...an object in motion tends to stay in motion, I guess. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shimizu Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Whenever I spar or do my kicks, forms, etc., I have a tendancy to "bounce" up and down. I've done this ever since when I was a kid and did a little boxing. My instructors always tell me not to, and that it wastes energy, or it might make me telegraph. If it's wrong- how come I see some of the best fighters do it?? What do you guys think?-Ericno. it's not wrong at all. it is actually very good as it adds and element of surprise to attacks. in my tae kwon-do classes; we are told to bounce and we are reminded to do so whenever we don't during sparring OSS! Shimizu Yuuhiro Shodan Shukokai Karate-DoYoon Kwan Ilgop Kup ITF Tae Kwon-Do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 In sparring rules where leg sweeps and low kicks aren't allowed it's probably all right. Outside of that though it's a risky behavior. The moment I see someone rise up off of the ground with both feet is the moment I close the distance and attack as now they have no base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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