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I enjoy gi more. There are alot more techniques and grips available when you use the gi. And, through karate, I've trained with a gi on since I was 6. I guess it's just the "traditionalist" in me. I love it.

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."

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Another shirt that is good for chokes and stuff on the street are the button up flannel shirts. Everyone wears them during the colder weather were I'm at.

No doubt. It's kinda like the BDU and ACU (our camoflague uniform) tops we wore in the military. Some of the guys were amazed when I used them to choke em out.

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."

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Another shirt that is good for chokes and stuff on the street are the button up flannel shirts. Everyone wears them during the colder weather were I'm at.

No doubt. It's kinda like the BDU and ACU (our camoflague uniform) tops we wore in the military. Some of the guys were amazed when I used them to choke em out.

I am looking forward to getting into training some of these moves in our Combat Hapkido classes. We usually train in t-shirts and dobok pants, so it will be interesting trying these different things.

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Another shirt that is good for chokes and stuff on the street are the button up flannel shirts. Everyone wears them during the colder weather were I'm at.

No doubt. It's kinda like the BDU and ACU (our camoflague uniform) tops we wore in the military. Some of the guys were amazed when I used them to choke em out.

We always wore our tops when we rolled in Iraq. Finally some guys wouldn't wear the DCU top to avoid chokes, so it was like training no gi :D

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So has anyone ever tried a gi throw on someone in a tee? I'm wondering if it would hold up or just rip....then again the 'worn' look is in nowadays no?

Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.


~Theodore Roosevelt

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I would think a gi throw using a tee would just rip. Unless the tee can support the weight of the person being thrown.

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."

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The way I've always learned, it's highly frowned upon to grab a tshirt in a street fight for any kind of hold because tshirts just rip too easily. Any kind of joint manipulation that doesn't require grabbing cloth is cool-- americanas, arm bars, knee bars, ankle locks, that kind of thing. As far as chokes go, don't even try to grab a tshirt to apply a choke, you're wasting your energy. Anything where you grab your own wrists or theirs is better. Oh, triangles are good too.

Absolutely not- I've managed to choke people out with nothing but t-shirts. The reason why a shirt is likely to tear is because your opponent is likely to tear away from you when you grab hold of it. Considering that you're most likely going to be on the ground when your applying your choke hold, your opponent will be pinned and wont have this luxury. Also take into account that it only takes 5lbs of pressure to collapse your caratoid arteries, so you dont need a whole lot of pressure in order for your choke to work effectively.

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