lordtariel Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 a side question that relates to the topic: Are the tassles on alot of the chinese weapons really meant to confuse an opponent? I'd imagine that they are more of a recent addition for show, but I know very little about CMA weapons...That was one of there purposes. On spears they were used to hide the point so you couldn't tell where the thrust was coming from. I've also read that some of the old ones were made of wire and could be flicked into the eyes of an opponent. There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerCrane Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 One theory that I've heard of is that Chinese weapons like the Dao are flexible (but not originally designed as flexible as the modern ones designed for competition) to create an even greater amount of power and duration when being used right. To make up the weakness of the weapon compared to say, the katana, the Kung Fu practitioners transfer and use their Chi through the weapon, so that the weapon is no different than an extension of the fighter's arm. Gong Kiu, Yau Kiu, Bik Kiu, Jik Kiu, Fun Kiu, Ding Kiu, Chieun Kiu, Tai Kiu, Lau Kiu, Wan Kiu, Jai Kiu, Deng Kiu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 To make up the weakness of the weapon compared to say, the katana, the Kung Fu practitioners transfer and use their Chi through the weapon, so that the weapon is no different than an extension of the fighter's arm.I don't know how far I would go with this idea. The Chinese did have swords as well. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerCrane Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 The idea is that there is a transfer of Chi between the practitioner and the weapon - any weapon. The flexible weapons weren't made solely for this purpose, but the idea is that even though they may seem more fragile compared to swords, they are reinforced by Chi.Let me ephasize that this is strictly a theory, and depending on how much and what you believe with regard to Qi Gong, you may or may not endorse this theory. Gong Kiu, Yau Kiu, Bik Kiu, Jik Kiu, Fun Kiu, Ding Kiu, Chieun Kiu, Tai Kiu, Lau Kiu, Wan Kiu, Jai Kiu, Deng Kiu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 The idea is that there is a transfer of Chi between the practitioner and the weapon - any weapon. The flexible weapons weren't made solely for this purpose, but the idea is that even though they may seem more fragile compared to swords, they are reinforced by Chi.Let me ephasize that this is strictly a theory, and depending on how much and what you believe with regard to Qi Gong, you may or may not endorse this theory.I understand what it means...however, couldn't this chi be transferred to non-flexible weapons as well? https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordtariel Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 It was also said that a trained gim fighter could actually bend the sword through gaps in armor. There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 It was also said that a trained gim fighter could actually bend the sword through gaps in armor.I'm not so sure about that, either. I think those ideas border more on myth than fact. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerCrane Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Yup, Chi can be transferred through non-flexible weapons as well.As for the gim bending through gaps in armor... that's something interesting that I've never heard of before. Are you talking about the flexible gim? I have a sturdy Tai Chi gim that is slightly - only slightly - flexible. Gong Kiu, Yau Kiu, Bik Kiu, Jik Kiu, Fun Kiu, Ding Kiu, Chieun Kiu, Tai Kiu, Lau Kiu, Wan Kiu, Jai Kiu, Deng Kiu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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