obiwansbane Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 i apologize if this has been mentioned before but ive done some looking on the net and found a club in the city im moving to that looks like a good solid club as opposed to a McDojo... anyways it teaches Shorin Ryu, (i havnt been able to find any shotokan, maybe when i get there i can check the yellow pages) right now i take shotokan and was wonderign what are the differences between the two that i may see if i go to this clubjust for info's sake im a brown belt goin for my black in like a month so i have a solid foundation in shotokan Brown belt... win trophies... grade... lose trophies... so much fun
armanox Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 A few differences you can expect to see. First off kata names. Since Shotokan came from Shorin Ryu, you'll find them similar, if not some the same.Names:Shotokan - Shorin RyuTekki - NaifanchiHeian - PinanBassai - PassaiKanku - KusankuHangetsu - SeisanGankaku - ChintoUnsu - UnsuJion - JionGojushiho - GojushihoThey're all that comes to mindTechnique wise I'd say learn to love the cat stance, and that your front leaning stance probably won't be as deep in Shorin Ryu. If you could tell us what sub style of Shorin Ryu (kobayashi, shobayashi, matsubashi, matsumura seito, etc) some more information might surface. "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky
Brandon Fisher Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Just another note on the kata. Shotokan Tekki kata is also known as Naifanchin and Naihanchi kata in the Okinawan system depending on the branch or system.Also Shorin schools will typically have less kata. Shotokan I believe has 24 kata and the Shorin Ryu systems usually have 15 to 18 kata depending on the school.I agree get used to the Cat stance and higher stances. Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do
Rateh Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 I have a friend who just moved from japan, she is a black belt in shorin ryu. According to her, shotokan is the more sport like version of shorin ryu. Also she doesn't do any deep stances as well as only a few kata. Your present circumstances don't determine where you can go; they merely determine where you start. - Nido Qubein
Brandon Fisher Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Yes Shotokan is more sport in comparison but none the less a good system. Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do
Mike Flanagan Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Its impossible to say what any one Shorin Ryu club might be like. Some you'll find very similar to Shotokan, almost indistinguishable in fact (I would argue about whether they should be really be called Shorin Ryu but that's another story).Others might seem virtually unrecognisable as karate to someone with a Shotokan background.Best thing you can do is give it a go and see what you think. As with trying any new style, try not to continually make comparisons with your old system, but judge it on its own merits.Mike https://www.headingleykarate.orgPractical Karate for Self-Defence
Rick_72 Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Stances. Just like has already been said, Shorin Ryu has a more natural upright stance than most other disciplines. The amount of cat stances you do will be dependant on not only the particular style of Shorin Ryu, but also how sport centric the particular dojo you are attending is. There's nothing wrong with sport Shorin Ryu, as the bunkai is all still there, but you'll notice that there's a little more flash in some of the technique in empty hand, and kobudo.
obiwansbane Posted December 6, 2006 Author Posted December 6, 2006 Well heres the club i was looking at, but now i understand why i see some katas on youtube where people say they are good but i think their stances are bad... its just a different stylehttp://www.shorinryu.ca/thnx for the pointers so far guys and i hope u can find out some more to give after seeing the site Brown belt... win trophies... grade... lose trophies... so much fun
Brandon Fisher Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 Well heres the club i was looking at, but now i understand why i see some katas on youtube where people say they are good but i think their stances are bad... its just a different stylehttp://www.shorinryu.ca/thnx for the pointers so far guys and i hope u can find out some more to give after seeing the siteLooks good to me Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do
P.A.L Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 i see the trace of Shotokan in their black belt katas,web site says Matsumura shorin ryu but the katas seem to be from kyan and tomari lineage. it would be interesting if they let you practice their white crane katas.ask them where they got the crane katas?
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