Looking for aniti-martial arts video...

[Jiffy]

shukokai2000, what you say is true. The martial arts does suffer from this lack of instinctive corrective reaction. While I understand what they were trying to portray in the movie, I think it was less than effective and came across more as an anti-martial art video rather than what their actual intentions were.

[cathal]

you can check out these guys at:

https://www.peterconsterdine.com

https://www.geoffthompson.com

I agree with Jiffy - they come off too one-sided. Do you have any non-biased links for information on these two people?

[A_Train]

Geoff Thompson has a Wikipedia entry, Peter, did not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Thompson

[elbows_and_knees]

I haven't seen the video, so I'm not commenting on it, BUT, MA training can actually be a hinderance in a fight, for several reasons.

[elbows_and_knees]

His main point though, that TMAers are disinclined to strike first by their training is false, in my opinion. People in our society (from school children up to adults) are scared of striking first because of the law! "If you hit first you are the instigator" is drilled into us from day one. The law may make allowance for pre-emptive striking in defence, but I'll bet it's a bugger to prove!

it's drilled in martial arts all the time.

"martial arts are for defense only"

several schools have a student creed that involves saying something similar. Heck, even most kata begin with a block. you are taught not to strike first, but to strike hardest.

people aren't scared to strike first because of the law. I guarantee you that 90% of people in altercations will not have the presence of mind to be thinking about the law. They are focused on the altercation at hand. the consequences are more of an afterthought.

[Jiffy]

Absoloutly Right.

He who strikes first, strikes last.

[bushido_man96]

I am definitely a proponent of the pre-emptive strike.

[username8517]

As am I.

[NightOwl]

I wouldn't disagree that there are alot of MA who wouldn't do well if someone attacked them (I'm thinking in this case of the type of individual who gets a blackbelt in a year by paying his way to it, etc). BUT, there are planety of MA who DO know how to handle themselves properly in a fight, and this whole thing seems to me at least like one of those promotions for a 'Turning YOU into a one hit kill tough-as-nails unstopable toughguy who can handle any situation and anyone because we teach you how it goes down on the STREET!' kind of deals.

[elbows_and_knees]

BUT, there are planety of MA who DO know how to handle themselves properly in a fight

perhaps. But that is something you don't really know until you are actually in an altercation, which statistically is something most adults will never experience.