Double round kicks (Olympic style)

[bushido_man96]

I have trouble with the double round kicks. Not two kicks with the same leg, but the back leg (or front) followed immediately by kicking with the other leg. I can kind of do it on the bag, but it isn't very smooth, and it takes a little while to get it going. Not using the bag, it just looks horrible.

Any suggestions would be helpful! Thanks!

[pegasi]

What my instructor tells me is that it's all in the pivoting. If you don't pick up the heel on the supporting foot enough to clear the floor completely, the "drag" slows you down. Putting a bit more of a "hop" in with the pivoting gets more weight off the support leg during the pivot, making the turn faster.

I see this when my instructor demonstrates, and am working on it myself. I find combination kicks a challenge, in part because of my permanent knee damage.

At the other school we're affilated with, which trains with more of a sparring emphasis than we do, they do what's called "doubles". What they're doing is a round kick with a partial pivot, done left-right (or right-left) very very fast, consecutively, on the bag. It's hard to describe. I think of it more like executing the low part of low then high round kicks done with the same leg, but only doing the low part on each side, really fast.

[bushido_man96]

At the other school we're affilated with, which trains with more of a sparring emphasis than we do, they do what's called "doubles". What they're doing is a round kick with a partial pivot, done left-right (or right-left) very very fast, consecutively, on the bag. It's hard to describe. I think of it more like executing the low part of low then high round kicks done with the same leg, but only doing the low part on each side, really fast.

This is the one I am referring to. It is tough for me, because I am kind of wide bodied, and have trouble turning. I am also very used to doing the full traditional round kick, witht the big hip turn and all.

[ninjanurse]

This kick will always be easier on a bag or against an opponent because you are actually using them/it to spring off of for the second kick. It may help to have a partner hold two kicking paddles so there is a slight resistance to spring off of-in a sense tricking the eye & body so that you build muscle memory to the rotation of the hip. Hope this makes sense.

[bushido_man96]

Thanks, ninjanurse. That helps.

[tkdkid39]

to start out go w/ a regular round kick than when u jump turn over ur hips and get the knee of ur 1st kick to turn behind ur body to help turn over the other leg.

hope that helps and rember Always turn over ur hips

[bushido_man96]

to start out go w/ a regular round kick than when u jump turn over ur hips and get the knee of ur 1st kick to turn behind ur body to help turn over the other leg.

hope that helps and rember Always turn over ur hips

Thanks for the tip, but for these quicker sparring kicks, turning over the hips completely makes it very hard to recover for the second kick. When I do a traditional style kick, for forms and breaking/knockout , I turn the hips over all the way.

[bmcgonag]

I've actually never done this kick til the school I just started at. I've watched every person at this school do it, and haven't yet figured out the advantage to it. In sparring it is almost all they do. RH, RH, RH, RH, RH, RH...it just makes it easy for me to defend against, and even easier to land a solid linear kick on them.

Block the RH with your shin, pushing it back, as you step down, immeditely lift the front foot up, nad use a front snap/push kick, you'll knock them into next week, where you can do it to them again.

Best,

Brian

[DWx]

With the double roundhouse, I find its as much pulling back your first leg as it is throwing your second. I learnt it by doing the first kick, putting the leg down and stepping through fast to land the second kick. Once I got that sorted, I progressed until I didn't need to put the foot down after the first. I hope that made sense.

[bushido_man96]

I've actually never done this kick til the school I just started at. I've watched every person at this school do it, and haven't yet figured out the advantage to it. In sparring it is almost all they do. RH, RH, RH, RH, RH, RH...it just makes it easy for me to defend against, and even easier to land a solid linear kick on them.

Block the RH with your shin, pushing it back, as you step down, immeditely lift the front foot up, nad use a front snap/push kick, you'll knock them into next week, where you can do it to them again.

Best,

Brian

Thanks for the tips. I am pretty sure I can defend the kick, it is actually doing the kick that I have trouble with. As for your initial question, it is a popular kick in TKD Olympic style tournament sparring.

With the double roundhouse, I find its as much pulling back your first leg as it is throwing your second. I learnt it by doing the first kick, putting the leg down and stepping through fast to land the second kick. Once I got that sorted, I progressed until I didn't need to put the foot down after the first. I hope that made sense.

That does help. Thanks, DWx.