cathal Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 What do you think you can do when someon about the same height grabs you around your neck from behind. Their other hand is holding something sharp and it is pressed against your lower back? .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username8517 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Let me play with this scenario a bit tomorrow during work out and get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Realistically, you would give them what they want. If they want you to get into a vehicle and go somewhere with them, then you act.Grab the arm choking you with both hands, drop into a half squat position, and throw them over your shoulder. Gotta be careful about that knife, though.Elbows_and_knees can probably answer this one better than I, however. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username8517 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Well due to a sick child it looks like I won't be attending the workout tonight. I'll have to wait and try a few ideas I have running in my head out on Monday night. However, bushido_man96 is right about giving them whatever they want. Realistically when someone confronts you with a weapon their either trying to kill you or intimidate you into giving up from the very start. If they succeed in wrapping one arm around your neck and the other holding a knife (or any other kind of weapon) to your back, then they're probably not aiming to kill you. If they were aiming to seriously damage or kill you, they would be able to get in a good couple of stabs before your brain even fully registered what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username8517 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Well after playing around with a few defense scenarios to this. Obviously you're in a bad situation, but here are a few of the better ones I tooled around with. 1). Take your right hand, shoot it back palm down, grab the hand holding the knife (the thumb being preferable), and shoot it back out to the side. This basically becomes a test of strength that should hopefully distract your opponent for a couple seconds and make him momentarily forget about the arm around your throat for a couple seconds while you quickly figure out what to do from there. I'm personally not really big on this one, but it did catch my partner off guard who knew I was going to do something.2). Imagine your body is on a pivot straight down the middle. Quickly turn your body to the left (towards your assaulter's inside) while using your left arm to deflect the knife to the side. This should effectively put you in a CQC situation with your assailant grabbing your right side with their left arm and their knife likely coming in to your left side in a thrusting manner.Neither way is a great defense, but at least it's something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordtariel Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I'll have to think about this one. If someone's your height and has their arm around your neck, they're going to be too close to actually stab directly at your back. More likely, the weapon would be able to stab the side and corner of your back. The only way they would be able to hold it to your back if they were standing perpendicular to you. I'll have to think on it a bit. There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamasandSais Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Id say, on this one make sure you can breathe then listen to Bushido. He's usually right. "Sword-Chucks yo."Yes, thanks a lot guys. Hey, kamasandsais, that was something that you knew that I did not!! <---blackmail hahahahhaha bushido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Id say, on this one make sure you can breathe then listen to Bushido. He's usually right. Bah! Bearich made some good stabs at this scenario (pardon the pun!); however, this is always difficult, when you face a weapon. The first concern should be controlling the weapon arm, and getting into position to do that. Also, get it in your head that you will get cut. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathal Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 Yes there's some good thoughts on here. I'm going to play around with this one as well. .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I may work on them this weekend with my brother as well. He has a knack for these things. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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