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Sorry if this topic has already been discussed but I'm a newb here. :cry: When I fight, I have to keep myself somewhat at a distance. If I end up on the ground, I seem to struggle trying to get back up. Are there any good techniques that are practical that would enable someone like me to get back up or break someones pin on me? Any ideas would be helpful. Thank you. :karate:

Hon-Shin-Do=The way of the True Heart


Most men stop when they begin to tire. Good men go untill they think they are going to collapse. but the very best know the mind tires before the body and push themselves further and further beyond all limits. Only when all these limits are shattered can the unattainable be reached.

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Yep, there are many techniques. For any position you are being held in, there are several different escapes. There's no band-aid solution to being pinned. There are many extremely in-depth martial arts devoted to answering this question, and escaping from underneith a skilled opponent takes lots of training. Amateur wrestling, judo, BJJ, sambo, catch wrestling, shootwrestling, or submission wrestling would all offer solutions to your problem.

22 years old

Shootwrestling

Formerly Wado-Kai Karate

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I think it really depends on how you are being held to the ground. Do you have any specific descriptions for us to work with?

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The best victory is when the opponent surrenders

of its own accord before there are any actual

hostilities...It is best to win without fighting.

- Sun-tzu

Posted

Well for one thing, hypotheticlly(can't spell :D ) The person would be untrainded, just a normal person having me pinned. The situation is this: I'm on my belly with my hands pinned to my side and the person on his knees above me. Situation two: I'm on my back in a sort of sit up position except my hands are tucked in my chest. ( p.s. this has happened to me before, but only when " Horsing around" with my cousin) Thanks alot guys for the help

Hon-Shin-Do=The way of the True Heart


Most men stop when they begin to tire. Good men go untill they think they are going to collapse. but the very best know the mind tires before the body and push themselves further and further beyond all limits. Only when all these limits are shattered can the unattainable be reached.

Posted

Learning grappling over the internet would be like learning hon-shin-do and kobu-do over the internet. You aren't going to be able to learn much this way.

22 years old

Shootwrestling

Formerly Wado-Kai Karate

Posted
Well for one thing, hypotheticlly(can't spell :D ) The person would be untrainded, just a normal person having me pinned. The situation is this: I'm on my belly with my hands pinned to my side and the person on his knees above me. Situation two: I'm on my back in a sort of sit up position except my hands are tucked in my chest. ( p.s. this has happened to me before, but only when " Horsing around" with my cousin) Thanks alot guys for the help

I would keep wrestling with your buddy, and try to figure some things out. One thing is for sure, being pinned on your stomach, with an opponent on your back, is very BAD! Definitely get something worked out to defend that.

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Learning grappling over the internet would be like learning hon-shin-do and kobu-do over the internet. You aren't going to be able to learn much this way.

I agree to a point. Depends on one's background in martial arts as well as their athleticism. To become a black-belt level BJJ practitioner one certainly needs to get a good instructor at a good school and be prepared to train hard and long for quite a while. However, I learned most of the required blue belt techniques on my own through books and video and my beloved bjj.org (RIP), and when I finally started formal BJJ training, my instructor didn't believe I had never taken BJJ before. After a short time training, I regularly tap out blue belts and I have had much better than expected success against purple belts as well.

Of course, no one can learn grappling without a partner to train with. I would usually just grab anyone I could from my karate class and grapple, preferably with the former wrestlers we have. However, someone who has little prior MA experience will likely not have the kinesthetic awareness to avoid developing bad habits, so this probably won't work for them.

With respect,

Sohan

"If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo


"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim


"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu

Posted
Learning grappling over the internet would be like learning hon-shin-do and kobu-do over the internet. You aren't going to be able to learn much this way.

I agree to a point. Depends on one's background in martial arts as well as their athleticism. To become a black-belt level BJJ practitioner one certainly needs to get a good instructor at a good school and be prepared to train hard and long for quite a while. However, I learned most of the required blue belt techniques on my own through books and video and my beloved bjj.org (RIP), and when I finally started formal BJJ training, my instructor didn't believe I had never taken BJJ before. After a short time training, I regularly tap out blue belts and I have had much better than expected success against purple belts as well.

Of course, no one can learn grappling without a partner to train with. I would usually just grab anyone I could from my karate class and grapple, preferably with the former wrestlers we have. However, someone who has little prior MA experience will likely not have the kinesthetic awareness to avoid developing bad habits, so this probably won't work for them.

With respect,

Sohan

That is what I am afraid of, developing the bad habits. And I definitely notice that I don't have very good kinesthetic awareness. I can never tell what is going on with other parts of my body when I have a lock applied to me.

Posted

your right about learning over the internet, its not a good way to learn. I'll see my schools wrestling coach and see what its all about. If he can't help, then i should just keep wrestling with my cousin, after all you learn through experiments and experience

Hon-Shin-Do=The way of the True Heart


Most men stop when they begin to tire. Good men go untill they think they are going to collapse. but the very best know the mind tires before the body and push themselves further and further beyond all limits. Only when all these limits are shattered can the unattainable be reached.

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