UFC in the streets

[masterintraining]

okay we all know there are many different elements that seperate ring fighting, from streetfighting. my quistion is ( and i am not trying to ask a which style is better or is this style good qustion) do u think MMA like in the UFC can work the same way in the street it dose in the cage. in the cage, when the fighters get somebody in a armbar, or my favorite (because almost knowbody can get out of it) the rear naked chokehold when that person own the recieving sideof that gets in to much pain they tapout, and the fights over, but in the street just because somebody says that they give up or apologizes etc. it dose not mean they are telling the truth, and wont attack again. nowadays it seems that all you here about is UFC i love watching UFC actually i am wathcing "the Ultimate fighter right now. but it still makes me wonder would these fighters be as good in a club fight or bar fight as they are in the UFC, can some people please give me some encite, or there oppnions and knowledge of this subject.i think in most fights it depends own your abillity to adapt to the person you are fighting not the style, thats why i think almost any martial arts style can do well in the UFC as long as you know how to fight against a person of that perticular martial discipline,and the fighter in particluar. thats why i dont like when people say that kung-fu is not effective in the UFC, but thats not the topic of this post , anyway what do u guys feel about UFC in the streets ?

[MizuRyu]

It all depends on the fighter. I know MMA guys who are easy to hand a whoopin, I also know some that could snap me in half. I also know some karate guys that are VERY scary. It depends on how they train, what their street comfort level is, and how much experience they have in REAL fights. Cage fights don't resemble real fights for squat in my experience. Neither do karate studios. That being said, it's all about application.

[bushido_man96]

What the UFC guys have as their best ally is all the training they do. And although cage figthting may not be street fighting, it is the closest thing there is to it as a sport, and this is what makes them dangerous.

The UFC guys are conditioned, and they know what it is like to take a shot. Fighting is what they do for a living, so this will naturally give them an advantage on the streets. It can be likened to the way Jigoro Kano trained his judoka. He stripped out some of the "dangerous" techniques, and used less dangerous but controllable techniques to allow his students to train at full speed together at all times (resisting partner). This gave his students an edge over the JJJ practitioners that they faced in challenges. It is the same with the UFC fighters. When they train, they spend so much time drilling with sparring partners with both stand-up and ground work, that they are better conditioned to it than those who don't train this way.

[cathal]

I tend to agree, conditioning is everything. That is where it boils down to the individual. I wholeheartedly believe that when it comes to your own personal training, conditioning, and personality, they are the major factors in determining how successful you will be in a physical fight.

At the same time I can't ignore the mental aspect of a person's training. Meditation, mental discipline, and the development of Ki/Q is going to be a factor.

[bushido_man96]

True, cathal, mental training is important as well. Stepping into the ring, like the UFC fighters do, trains them mentally just as well, I feel.

[elbows_and_knees]

okay we all know there are many different elements that seperate ring fighting, from streetfighting. my quistion is ( and i am not trying to ask a which style is better or is this style good qustion) do u think MMA like in the UFC can work the same way in the street it dose in the cage. in the cage, when the fighters get somebody in a armbar, or my favorite (because almost knowbody can get out of it) the rear naked chokehold when that person own the recieving sideof that gets in to much pain they tapout, and the fights over, but in the street just because somebody says that they give up or apologizes etc. it dose not mean they are telling the truth, and wont attack again.

give up? you realize these are joint locks, right? strangulations? you snap their limb or choke them unconscious, if the situation warrants. I choke people out at work on a regular basis. It definitely works. If the situation doesn't warrant it and you don't have time to just restrain them till authorities come, establish a dominant position and strike them.

nowadays it seems that all you here about is UFC i love watching UFC actually i am wathcing "the Ultimate fighter right now. but it still makes me wonder would these fighters be as good in a club fight or bar fight as they are in the UFC, can some people please give me some encite, or there oppnions and knowledge of this subject.

why would you doubt them, but not doubt TMA?

i think in most fights it depends own your abillity to adapt to the person you are fighting not the style, thats why i think almost any martial arts style can do well in the UFC as long as you know how to fight against a person of that perticular martial discipline,and the fighter in particluar.

the style actually has a lot to do wth it in most cases, because said style will dictate the training methods used.

thats why i dont like when people say that kung-fu is not effective in the UFC, but thats not the topic of this post , anyway what do u guys feel about UFC in the streets ?

kung fu has been ineffective because the training methods used in some kung fu styles have proven ineffective. you have to train for the venue you are fighting in.

[mantis.style]

UFC and MMA isn't just about arm-barring people. You only tend to see that in the ring because against other highly trained people, that is often their best option. That doesn't mean they don't know how to punch and kick.

[juey palancu]

Interesting thread

I tend to agree that the development of an individual as a warrior/fighter/defender is what will determine the outcome of a street confrontation (if there are no guns involved, if there are, all bets are off, really).

Please dont turn this into yet another MMA vs TMA confrontation, elbows!

[DokterVet]

Very few submissions in MMA are dependant on pain compliance.

The opponent doesn't tap out because it "hurts too much," he taps out to avoid serious injury or unconsciousness.

So yes, they would be very effective on the street.

[MisterRadley]

Very few submissions in MMA are dependant on pain compliance.

The opponent doesn't tap out because it "hurts too much," he taps out to avoid serious injury or unconsciousness.

So yes, they would be very effective on the street.

I agree. MMA would be pretty effective.